DOCTOR REVEALS: Posible Bang Sapi Pala ang Akala Nating Mental Illness?

Sa powerful at deeply moving na interview sa Istoryang Katoliko, Dra. Camille Garcia — devoted Catholic Clinical Psychologist at Founder ng Clinic of the Holy Spirit — nagbabahagi ng kanyang expert insights at totoong karanasan sa isa sa pinakamahirap unawain na paksa sa simbahan ngayon.

Buksan ni Dra. Camille ang kritikal na pagkakaiba ng mental illness at demonic possession, kung paano mag-discern ng spiritual warfare mula sa psychological wounds, ang healing power ng Holy Spirit, ang papel ng sacraments sa emotional recovery, childhood trauma, family healing, anxiety, depression, at mga totoong kwento ng pasyente sa kanyang clinic — kasama na ang nakakakilabot na kaso ng pasyenteng nagbuhat ng kama habang nakatali.

Hindi ito ordinaryong usapan — ito ay isang malinaw, compassionate, at faith-filled na gabay na pinagsasama ang propesyonal na psychology at tunay na Catholic teaching para tulungan ang mga tahimik na nagdurusa sa isip at kaluluwa.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Yung parang takim mushul kana demonic.

SPEAKER_12 0:04

Um, another one. It's a good thing.

unknown 0:14

Oh.

SPEAKER_12 0:16

Patient since 1988.

SPEAKER_14 0:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_12 0:18

So my mental retardation to Paris kitcha. And when she was in a hospital, psychiatric part in a hospital, she was abused by the AIDS.

SPEAKER_15 0:32

Yungtai?

SPEAKER_12 0:34

No, no, no, by the AIDS. Pero prior to that, hypersexuality, she goes to the police station. At ginagalops. So then when the time king na yung kapatinya became a doctor. Kapina anunal gate. Parasagan hindi sham. So nung dito sa, I na ko grabi yung ano na pa sexually preoccupied nya. Pagbina gusuha na anto sasabinya. My name is kenito, pero angla lagin ya apilido. Yung apili dung nurse, apilidun ng guarja na min, apili dunga intern ganan. So maisan, pero Pag na gwala na yan. Manuala ka. Mali it lang na kaita m yung nurse kabi. Papata ba imalang konta nurse. D ng kala ke.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

Hmm Pito.

SPEAKER_12 1:31

India. Tina Aliya. So tinalisha sam bedna danyan. Yung bed cemented sa anasa floor. Tasa good kami, me gun gunan bang, ng bang, bang, nung bang sador. Sabin naam panna guno in ultuata uulun ni anun nitesto. Nakatali parisha yung bed nasalikunya. Kun so bohat bohat yun bed. Ooh Tapos Anung punishan ananga sakical Nasa toilet bowsa to malincha has to na bali yung kick. Dinner asha veterans okay, na hip replacement. Bina dik dito, ng taha me parang di deteriorate, tapos iba na tanya. And then, the bay sa bigoki na photo etonila langam. Mm paran dinya na man. Tapas de pay, so dinina shisa veterans. Tapas, di alum namin na ganon tapas de alumnan doctor din kasi dun nan din doctor nya. Dun dinanasedun sabinamin ohina oheina se malote. Asi ma ayo sa tapas kina usa pasha ng kapatinya kay, alam ng kapat m ayo. Big lang y na ta. Patay. Menangha nahawa hana anal. Parang si guri naga njusa. Sabin menganga kumpina se yo hindi pabinawa nyan. So it was uh time nan na gir nag uh dramatic, sober dramatic. I bled din na go ako sa stages ing super dugo jun and yin y mata ya ho langital. So dakasin parang anang bleeding ako nun. Panang di kolam, bigang total bleeding sha. Tapas talagang ng time bino kata dina k hospital, dina karn consciousness. Pero anato ka taina shoot. So, personisi kupa sa, ta paha ni su doctor mali, shame palitisah, tapas pa ng matul yu show. Tapas nung nan dina ako nasa ER. Parang dada salah ho, Lord zabikung ganon, ayung mota lagatunganon, tuma ugala duda sa lawyer, kaya ta hilung gilako, ma'am, sabikung ganon, bab ibi bei kuna pula hat ngbayat na ibinigay ny sa kain, sabin nganon kase ndikuna kaya n tangga pinyong kaas. That la yon binaliko laha. And then after that everything went smooth. So nung tini tangan nila, na gula tsila, sabin nila dan sa private yung building Sabin ganinila, ambahu, ambahu peru bagung malinis la. Ambahu bahu bahu daw talaga. Din sabi kung ganan talaga, sabiko kalakubanilini sw. Mam, hindi kung apu alami, nilini s namin talaga, amdini ni s linias, pak kitang nan yung malinis putelaga per ambahu baw na indin na min alam. So the following day, nag bless na ng exercise las sabbung ba anosambbo, sabilinang ganu pa naka yana na wula yun. Hindi niri mmakita. Ka so feeding ko tina ma an yung pare.

SPEAKER_08 4:41

Mm.

SPEAKER_12 4:41

Kasi na kasakitya ng after.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Mm. Buhainaman.

SPEAKER_10 4:50

Sabiko kan okay.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

Sabiko Dona bir.

SPEAKER_17 4:53

Kila da msi ngara.

SPEAKER_12 4:55

Haam, na khimu tang kay sa yungga na sabinya. Sasusunun papunda hina si father Darwin dito sabin. Oh, sabinya ngana. Baby gang pa ya. Sabinyye papundaya. Sabi go, anda sabio, papa. Dito, habinya, paramasha do mala kasyungas me. Yung ma po sabi ganan ya. Kazin na pochassa doubles hab ya. Punda na tin yang sabi sabinya. Sing di sabi kung ganon pakdasang pari na. No kuri pakda do sang ku yungwa no sabiko, but na but na dali yon sabi kung ganon. And then yung it turned out hindi ku alam na me ng yarapalang incident before that. Yung ginagamet for the incense di ba hangganon. May isang staff ka me pinaglaro an.

SPEAKER_08 5:42

Hmm.

SPEAKER_12 5:43

And then hindi magan li nagari sa kanye. Afterwards. Umalisha dito and then uh sabinila ano bata patoap uh na na enlarge prostate. Tapas na kasakit. Tapas hindi nawelam kan nagari. Ba lang tinama an. Yung yung yung girlfriend nya. Na yun kasi very playful alam yun last yung involved na gan. Na mata yung girlfriend. Mm. At an early age of thirty. Na walang da hilad. Parasi nabila nidila maka yga tapaswala na. Kya sa biko anglaas.

SPEAKER_04 6:23

So, in the name of the father, son, the holy spirit, amen. Protection of technology prayer. Lord Jesus Christ, sovereign king and throne in heaven, in your love and mercy, I ask that you establish a perimeter of protection with your precious blood around our communication devices and all technology we use and own. Our phones and cell phones, computers, tablets and other devices. The cameras or webcams, microphone speaker displays any and all software. Wi-Fi connection in the air, both my router and the router of the people we are communicating with. The optic cables involve in the transmission of data and the light waves being used to transfer data. Cleanse them with your precious blood and drive away b drive from them any satanic influence. I ask that you establish around them a sanctuary of your mercy where Satan and any other evil spirit or human agency cannot interfere. I ask, Father, that you will block, bind, rebuke, and render impotent any assault of the evil one from them in any way. Father, so long as this instrument is utilized, we ask you to allow them to enjoy the protection of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Saint Carlo Akutis, Saint Michael the Archangel, and all the holy angels. We ask this in your most holy name, the name before which every knee shall bow in heaven. On the earth and under the earth, that Jesus Christ is Lord. Amen. In the name of the Father and Son, the Holy Spirit. Amen. So, Doctora Kamil Garcia.

SPEAKER_12 8:06

So, last year, pay lang matutulo. Imagine, sabi ko. Ahi sa wakas matuto loy. Actually, it so happened, itung sinabi muna date since birthday na husband ko so bala sele. Mama yapa sa mami ya ham se. So sabi na munganan asig okay. Parang pak bibi yang sa Adrian. Dar ka se shyye pe di ba. Parang adama na pak counselling paang tag this. Right. Di pasabi ng nurse. Maha ba sigurung usapanit oo maha bang usapan.

SPEAKER_04 8:41

Birdenya is Saint Bridget of Sweden and Fisday. So, girling. Ilan ta wanasias band do.

SPEAKER_12 8:48

61.

SPEAKER_04 8:49

Uh analang.

SPEAKER_12 8:50

Uh. But I'm much older. I'm 63.

SPEAKER_04 8:54

Oh. Psychologist Psychologist din sha.

SPEAKER_12 8:57

Uh uh, psych then. Sigura nika mg prepare di mg incompatible condition. Nasa ganung field. So must an shell for the patients. Mm-c close. Pero sikura kame is mumme mg last year. Tama last year kasa na karuncha nang anon ng brain abscess. So parang basically na karun ng continues cognitive. So yung memory nyam mejo na karna lapses. Per mas okay, dun pa ni wala akut lahatang talang spiritual healing.

SPEAKER_03 9:36

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 9:37

Because everybody was telling us one thing. And then it so happened na pa nang hindi ang sabrang sabrang mahal. Sabina mg hindi na mingaya. Tabasend the doctor sa cardia sa ng saabinga. There's this one anno thing na ngyan na nag the patient will be subjected to medication for 70 days. Pero kai langan, sabina hindi naamin kaya na mg konfies. So, pero tapa sin nabiny yang, uh oh, sabin yang pero okay din yon mg half a million do yon. This sabinam di ka yeah. So I asked help. And then we went to a public hospital son one. Yes. And he was featured there for parang yung nung na dun sa De Los Santos, ang chances nya is 40, 40, 60, 40 yung salmon, 60 yung talagang alamo, Iung prepare myself. Kai chapi ny prepare ni na sary for death. Abinyangan. Tapasun ng san wan nagul kumin na after three days, pa ng mejo okay sh. Tapas deaths na bingun na pa ng treatment king yan. So I ask a lot of prayer warriors. And even during the time the diocese of kaba, walapang anam mg kakal n palang ng bagung bishop from bishop nest and then na ging si bishop Elias.

SPEAKER_14 11:01

Elias, naya.

SPEAKER_12 11:01

And during the time, si bishop Elias hindi pasha ano, dipasha bishop, me rung isang pass me takong na kina usa.

SPEAKER_15 11:08

Cladeshaan sha.

SPEAKER_12 11:09

Tabas big lang sina bingaran na asege I'll pray for him. Tapas nagulat nya ako na shain na ging bishop dito.

SPEAKER_01 11:15

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 11:17

I have to thank him. And then parang lahat na from Dominicas to cladeshians lahat to m long for the prayers and everything. Tapas yung chances for that 70 day na injections of maga injections we have to go to the hospital night and day. Parang chances ng done 50-50. And it's a miracle. I consider it really a miracle. Because after that, January nung na tapus. First week of February, MRI naam.

SPEAKER_14 11:50

Right.

SPEAKER_12 11:51

Pa ng Actually, it used to be a big golf ball. Yung taught size of a golf ball, and then dalogan kalaman se yung nasa. Nga la yung dala, na ang na tira, yung mis mung shell na lang nung golf ball.

SPEAKER_17 12:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 12:08

So parang la milagro. Kasi bibihira do yung na kaka surpass dun saga nung class y na injection la. So up to now, okay par okay sha, so bi do an uh MRI. Pero less expensive na yon. Meron ya medication anan na lang talaga tablet form, pero yung sabi mung mga dexroana.

SPEAKER_04 12:33

Pero na make na komatos basha me mild.

SPEAKER_12 12:36

Um wala, parang pero yung memory nya noon. Parang even yung pagha wak nya ng kuchara parang kind of Irak. Yes. Pang ta yung yang hindi sh stable, yung time na yon. Tapus pagti nata ng nya um nan dita na shabai parang sab nya sa nyung kwa ta natin. Parang yung ng gaka ngana naha lam to de parang stroke patient.

SPEAKER_03 13:00

Right. Um.

SPEAKER_12 13:01

Pero yung recovery, parang lahat ng tataka ka. Nraha naka recover in six months time. Sabi ko. Sin tina ng nala sini ng drive sa yo, papunta saa studio.

SPEAKER_07 13:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 13:12

Hasband ko, sabila ha? Sabina na ka drive, walang na nini wala nahaka pak drive, and even yung doctor nya nung nag guling ng M R I sabingan aga glablang baka yo, saba sabinya dokin da bakit sabi nya akbu yung drive ikao sabingga ng doctor. Ni wa parang yun palang alamo na talagang, pagatik saganya, nanini wala, palaga. During the time when they ask me about yung sa liber sa spiritual warfare, ng L. A. M. Parang Sabi Sig. Pero yungul uta ko parang diakun na nini wala nakayako. Mm Tabo sendin sabi koka kasi yung sabirin sabi kopalaga ma an sabi kung gana na every time na mg sasag about yung my testimony and everything. But during the time that I was talking, yes, a lot of people noticed na parang there's somebody who's backing me na parang bung mg salita. And la pita na ko we have been praying for you. We noticed something, sabi ng ganon. Pero we we were so happy you were able to push through with uh a speaker shift for reasons na dinamin alam back at big langita silang di maganda. So alamung me mga nan do anam magaling dan kanilang mga insightsab because I believe in you, big. And I'm so happy you're you've been paying for me. Yinan sa naabiko.

SPEAKER_16 14:42

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 14:42

And then even Father Jodo was then parang sabing ganon. I didn't expect that. Sabinangan, pero feeling ko okay ng yare.

SPEAKER_04 14:52

Oh. And so parang accidentally lang yung fix about share sa maga nyang doctor.

SPEAKER_12 15:00

When I went to Holy Land Holy Land, it's even accidental tourists India ko kasama don mala hung plan pumantan, mwula akung pea lahat. And somebody said, sabi ng auntiko, sab dun sananiko. Because my mother uh parang attempted three times to go there, pero palaging ng epic feel na na mata yung yung father ko, tapas na mata yung kasama nila na unkle ko na kasama no, an tapas muna psy na kasama, hindi pa ni na tuloy. So after five years bigang na tuloy. Tapos ema din star 75 nin yung na niko sabinga nun nung nati ko. Pana ta bububuhat ng mweta na natin. Sabi yung mata tanda na tayo. Sama natis gami. Ey pa nya natis samami wula mala kompera ypera nhilanda ko paras sa sa ridikula. Biniana na anti ko.

SPEAKER_05 15:49

Amen.

SPEAKER_12 15:50

Oh, ta was na ta wago sabiko. Anti ula kompera, ndila de la. Ndiumai tiny nya kung pa no na kabili ng pasalub napera ko is fifty dollars. And we even went to Thailand because na kalimo ta nami na pagating dun sana. Because we're big women. My my mom's big, my aunt's big. And since Israel uh mga Israel people, women are big. And then sabingasi ka sabingan, would you like to donate your clothes for these women and say kayu yung epitome mga kasi mga damin. So we give everything all. Parang tabas pungating namin daladala lang nabi mga bako, mga bhang i nagba sanami. Kabas dina sabingan oh sabi and additional gantragin na yung mgsailan. Sabi sa gang ma bugga tailan tay wula tain d meat sabinya kalana to naho bumida tainang dumit siga mgtailand tayo. Din lang. Holiland. Oh, from holiland. Kasi wala akamin damit, na you. Asin panang na gulan pa kamina angdala dalanamin, pati yung ano yung potixa ano sareung gina kahwiga akame na ma dalaname. Tabas zabi ng anan no brother ko. A nin dalanyo. But po gany nya la nyo. Tan sabi ka nan time ewang, but na, alau paren, me dalakaming na kaddala kam mina suguno almost five litres na water na na sala y na.

SPEAKER_04 17:24

Jaling Jordan River.

SPEAKER_12 17:26

May Jordan River, me ngare sa, na lahat kwasansa an na na to big sakaya. Nata water li ya kwa na parang anpimadala na tinak ta kading na hopas peron ni lahat na ma ng hihingi.

SPEAKER_04 17:39

Oh, shen pra. Parang re likin eh. Oh. Dun na ligo si dunbilap ta cd.

SPEAKER_12 17:46

Ka parang na tawading gamta yin nin pa hini hingi yung. Ayon yungga. Parang sa gin andami daming story ya, pero hing liko sha ma testify to other people, especially being an accidental tourist. And when I was able to share that particular incident na parang, it's so hard for me to pray during the time. Kasi nandu nag sa li kun ngbas, because I don't know how to pray yung kung anany yung how intent it's a different thing when you say praying la akakaya. Ma na lang. So na sa li kun dokon ngbas, d' kasi ayao kung bata tawa gako for prayer. Ng time na yon. Tapo sa ng testimon yang pinang pirita nila, and naka kata tawa dal kasi, a hindi ako na tato nata ako taho. During the time, this is very sani sa ni afternoon. Ng sabi ako ng testify ya na sabing di was the only time this parang pirin kona mahalakonigad and then parang any demon ganun. Tapas mina said the word demon, big lang komid dat na sabang pakkalakas dakas laha na takot. Ago si nabing nga katakot. Ganunun genang yari. Sa nya Israela. Ah no, sa church da dito ng giby hona testimony. Adi di sa na sa sa. Oh parang big lang paraganal sen i and. It'sami parang, I denounce big gang gmanun.

SPEAKER_04 19:12

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 19:13

Kaka ta lagadim pa.

SPEAKER_04 19:17

Pero me public my fair ka pa ng public speaking.

SPEAKER_12 19:21

Before. I do not allow myself. Kai na parang uh after I gave birth tambayo na ta. After I gave birth because anything that has to do with public speaking, okay langasa being ko me sake ta kupalaga, e inform kisa ka na lang pumanta. Because all of a sudden big rang hing.

SPEAKER_04 19:45

Wow, parang ipalagi kana sa face to face. Diving yung yung trabahum mo.

SPEAKER_12 19:50

Oh, nung una every time say nung time na yun, parang it was a time na ng suggest na. Hopeti poo bapata bago mgumpesa mg prayer. Mmm. Confident. Yeah. So I always say my prayer lang ng akulang. Kapa send that eventually no anana. Sina bikuna ke father, son in father, bha na mg pepending mg prayer tayo bago mggumpesa. So para na ging anana sa. So ng anana pa ng lag kami. Okay. Wow. Amen. Per before hindi k me tana pe pre.

SPEAKER_04 20:28

Mm-hmm. And doctora, curious ako, ano ba yung ano background monog kabata. Beri di uh catholicas candados.

SPEAKER_12 20:39

Yung yung father ko sa anas. A sabrang anasha. A close Catholic yung sa father's side. Mom, ang mother ko, Methodist, pero anasha, a ministerin ya music, ka yakun na pan sima, iting office na berang piano.

SPEAKER_03 20:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 20:52

Because conservator music sha.

SPEAKER_03 20:54

Mm.

SPEAKER_12 20:55

Tapos ng napang sawa na yung father ko. Ng ku pa converge into Catholic.

SPEAKER_04 21:00

Amen.

SPEAKER_12 21:01

Yung. So talugang i all throughout. Yin na.

SPEAKER_04 21:05

Hmm. Uh anon reason ka ba na kun gusun yang mg pa converse catholic. Me an.

SPEAKER_12 21:10

Kasi ayun na tata.

SPEAKER_04 21:12

Wa was ab.

SPEAKER_12 21:15

Kasi. Remember, being a uh Methodist then diba, paragas na sabmi submissiveness than two husbands. So talgang ginwane.

SPEAKER_04 21:24

So so wow, kait la bag salob. Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_12 21:27

And then must prayer for we go to the to uh nala laun when I was in high school, parang pak sino sundun nya ko. Sha langang lang susun dun ng venus day. Kase magatan kaminang na venus uh perpetual na no perpetual. Ganon, parang yin lang gina gwanya. Na, din mga mwaem. Mbili sang malapit langisa spiritu santo. Parang imajma spiritu santo squel, hangkota pasunggainho spirit parin.

SPEAKER_04 21:54

Ah, spiritu santo sa ta human. Oh.

SPEAKER_12 21:58

Kaa sa mgsa spiritu santo.

SPEAKER_04 22:00

I was a manila kathedrale. Oh less. Oh, the go painakuno. After ton to lumi potkaming kabite.

SPEAKER_12 22:17

Tondo k me talaga. So it's sad long yung uh kung diba uh uh until now. Um we sold the house. Uh dad tapas pagating ng pampang extension. Yes. Pang makita mgali lang.

SPEAKER_05 22:38

Nice.

SPEAKER_12 22:39

Okay, dun kame parang so spiritual centre. Ultra pating ka patin ka spiritual centre.

SPEAKER_04 22:44

Uh tapos ng na college. St.

SPEAKER_12 22:47

Paul Manila. Ah, so super casual. And then during the time um nag every pagmet, we attention parang na ging habit ya. Atin ng napuntakodito parang hindi paparang di mg misa kasi ma di dinikbo before kasi hindi konti pan lang ymgadito. So, parangidin ng bang yung anan nan simbahan, parang nakaka hyya na ndika magsi simba kagan pa nangganon. Tapos and I saw how parang how blessed you will be when you go to church. Ng pa ng iba it's something unusual for me. And then na ka kata wada kasi uh feeling ka antisocial la ko.

SPEAKER_08 23:32

Parangara.

SPEAKER_12 23:32

So, or it's either because of my ana uh being a psychologist, I don't want other people na pa tina waga ko and then pag mi kasama sila, and then they will ask, pan ma nahilala sha, baka sabi hina naika se sira u luka kaya kaya mo nakilala se dokamil. So parang sa ki ni it's up to them na sila mgbab magza sabi kung sina sila. Tapasila rin magza sabi kung pana na khilala. So parang sina sabi gnasin na in case we're outside. Please make it a point na kung mahihi ya ka yon na sabiin yon. Just tell then na you're a family friend.

SPEAKER_05 24:08

Amen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 24:09

Kasi anghirab na mgparang sabiin. A pa santi ky ni. Ay kwa sabi yon diba, parang garal, shampa yun yung yung anadon, yung kons na sa consent meyon. Eh, pa sasabrun dami ng na khala kwa parang bhalan la kum mirin mkha tilala sakan orwala. So it sa sa church me yon pa kon lito palag. Sa yung particular na pa na tabah, kasi every time I go to church. Wala mung mw po dun, sabantalang kuno sa pa, pep yung lugar ng. Wala palaga sang mmuo po nan di na ko paang. Idi ywa sana kha. Hindi yungar sa kiwa s nbaho, semantalang e ti yung ano. It's ni yung right. It's a center air sha. So, na dntalaga ring na ko. Tabas yung pala, pa na sinaml na elam pukasi nila na janga yung mwo poang Bak at me reservation ba ang ano, ang sim ang simba sila na simban. Dim mam, alam na nili sabi nyang kasi pak. So yung six o'clock mas na morning kasi pala ykusaka yi morning. Ayoko ng bihi ra kung mga afternoon andes magginaga wa. So pak alam nila. Bela katawa, ng afternoon, last week nga afterno na ko dl paindo la pa okay. Jis kul pa nabanganyata hongka ya na ko po. And then that's where I met also uh Father Arvin na bagung anasha ordain na presdito. And na sin to ano, he enjoys na sabi nya gusoko iba yung anko inside kusi nya gusoko about exorcism dang kaya. Maku kolab kame pupun ta sadito.

SPEAKER_04 25:42

Exorcis ba sha?

SPEAKER_12 25:43

Ah, iuno ng pisahanya kasi bagung ordain shel. And he's very into it. Sabi nya pupun ta sadito, sabi kosi talk to the patients and try to discern. Kasi y feeling komeron, pero siempre baka probably oppression la hindi yun talagan supposed to be.

SPEAKER_04 25:59

Lar me pungta ng exorcise dito doktora.

SPEAKER_12 26:02

Before, pero sobra eto uh an tal mga anatalaga na incense di ba. Sa dinal muna nyangami dito. Because a volunteer nurse sabin ya se gepa nya pa bless na fe book. Sunung tini tingan nila, na gula tsila, sabin nila dun sa private eta yung building sabin ganinila, ambahu, ambaho pero bagung malinis na, ambahu bahu bahu daw talaga, din sabi kung ganal talaga, sabiko kalakub bandalini swa, Mam, hindi kungapu alami, nilini snam min talaga, angini ni s linias, pakit nanyon malinis putalaga pero ambahu bao na nindi namin alam. So the following day, ng bless na ng exercise sila sabbung ba anosambbo, sabinang ganun pa ng yana na wolayun Hindi ni lan makita. Ka so feeding ko tina ma an yung pare.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

Mm.

SPEAKER_12 26:57

Kasi ng kasakitha ng after.

SPEAKER_02 27:01

Hmm. Wha inaman.

SPEAKER_12 27:04

A tari kina tata kakana sabi kwa kaka sabiko donab bir.

SPEAKER_17 27:10

Kila damasi ngara.

SPEAKER_12 27:11

Haam, na karimu tang kay shung na tabas sabinyye sasusunun papuntai nati si father Darwin dito sabye. Oh, sabinya gana. Tabasis. Sabinyye papunda. Sabiko, anda sabyon, pa'ta yang dito, habinya, paramusha do malakasungas me. Duma po sabi gana kasi na pochessas double sab nya. Punda natin nya sabi sabinya. Sing di sabi kunganonon. Pukdasan mim parina. No kuri pakda dosal ku yungan no sabiko, but na but na dali yon sabi kung ganon. And then yung it turned out hindi ku alam na me ng yarpa lang incident before that. Yung gina gamet for the incense di ba hangganon. Me isang staff kame pinaglaru'an.

SPEAKER_08 27:58

Hmm.

SPEAKER_12 27:59

And then hindi magandi na yarisa afterwards. Umalisha dito, and then uh sabinila anon bata pato uh na na enlarge prostate, tapas na kasaket. Tapas hindi na weam kana ng yari. Belang tinama an, yung yung girlfriend ya. Na yun kasi very playful alam yung last yung involved na gan. Na mata yung girlfriend. Mm. At an early age of thirty. Na gw lang da hilad. Parasin nabilang dila maka yang tapaswala na. Ka sa biko ang las.

SPEAKER_04 28:40

Uh kila n lang yaren, doctor.

SPEAKER_12 28:43

Last year.

SPEAKER_04 28:44

Last year lang. Uh. After no la na pum tang pari na. Wella.

SPEAKER_12 28:50

Uh see Father Arvid na ka schedule pa lang sha.

SPEAKER_04 28:52

Si father Jojo Idi wupa na.

SPEAKER_12 28:54

Hindipa, hindi pa. Kaa mga sabi ko. Jisko ka na nan baha kai lang na klasin lang an sacramentas, e dada lingko na dito paranganans. Tapa sabi nya. Epa bak do it.

SPEAKER_14 29:04

Bisha, fight.

SPEAKER_12 29:06

Si bishop alam nya ng na katten sh ng senakolo maka tabi coming ganonon. Ta pasabi nyangon. Ahi, I feel interested with your place, sabinagara. Ayonha, Father, kung alamulang, na alalamo di bab sang kato ta yung. Holy water na isang boo ga nya nyung nanja. So malok talaga ng para ilak. Iko nag dita sa bop. Da wasabinya, I remember, iko pa la yung kumuha ng marami doon sabung na. Ekasa diba mala kinaman yung ibab. Kasi diba open na kana nan ng doors. Yes, yes. Ka sa ka samye e marami yon. Oh, dikum muha ko doon. Taba sabikota ndamina m di kumkuha. Samyya, pa iku ymapi nakamala hingki nuha. Naka sang o anaka nakam mineral water bam lipade.

SPEAKER_04 29:54

Yeah, actually ever ako every day ng giv si ka ng holy water saba. Kupaga para protection na ting. It's always important learn.

SPEAKER_12 30:05

Akalaka ng ouna display lang. Because it's pana for every and on ba iton dito me holy water. Akota na me holy water. Taba sabing anil um uh nung time na men na time na counselling ako sabingan sabing. Parangan ba uh dok pasha na agnostic ako Sir, are you you ana parang distracted with my image images ka sabing gana. So we the okay lang i nya mahira what is so difficult now among youth. Parang last year if I have mung up to 15 outpatients na youth, parang 10 said automatic. When you talk about are you Catholic? No, I'm agnostic. Hana na sabina lang, I'm a Protestant and I'm a Christian. I'm agnostic. And then one said, I'm an atheist. And please do not have any counseling na my spiritual contempt.

SPEAKER_08 31:08

Mm.

SPEAKER_12 31:08

Ganun ka giran sa sabi y. So during the time, the story ako.

SPEAKER_05 31:13

Mm-hmm, nan no. Padangwain do.

SPEAKER_12 31:16

Waggyung, pa ng sanga anon na history ta pa sabiko. Iko pa la mm options sa bim saan ka ngusa muda options. And then pa i clarify lang natan. Kasi so difficult na para sabihin mwa na you wanted to do these perils sa sabi ma walang walang help na ng divine intervention. Tabas de sabigal kam thing of fit and ma indikata na intendi hai. Considering na eka CSA.

SPEAKER_14 31:42

C S A, yes.

SPEAKER_12 31:43

Uh ng na ba pinko pa nga na kapa sa na religion dun. Liba every year my roon.

SPEAKER_04 31:52

Prosadly, actually, yang yung um reality ng sama Catholic school doctor.

SPEAKER_13 31:58

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 31:59

Um kikita panggata ng celebrate ng Pride Month. Oh.

SPEAKER_12 32:05

And then pa na ng sakinga na la la ko. Because I was uh with um Dominican uh na nun sister Sister Kon yin nasata gaitai. She was telling me. Sabin, kasi menon sang menon isang nun nan referersak. Nako sabinya, um you know what, sabinya, the devil is more powerful and mo mas naka so ron sa aming mga ano.

SPEAKER_14 32:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_12 32:33

Mga nuns or priests, kesas sa mga outside na mga lay people. Yeah. Kaya grabe na hindi mung tingi hand, naka hit gang yen yung mga madre, me ng isa ordalowa na na apek to ha ngba sa mai nga ya dik paran kang. So And I believe.

SPEAKER_05 32:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 32:50

Kasi ng nakita ko yung pa ng that incident na nagna kaw yung madre.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

Ngna kao. Nggao yung madre.

SPEAKER_12 33:01

Ng laptop, ng isang 75 years old. And what 75 years old nan said na I don't need my laptop. I just need the pictures inside because they are memories of my childhood and kinang payo ng sangko. And it took them three years after discover kousino. So end of story. Na ayo shon na tang na ana yung nan. Kaso, meren shan ano, anan tawag dito, mei mika kon naive na kousina yngtago. Aba iko yung nag na ka. Yung accessory. After that, na apek ta ha nyo accessory pumunta dito, na she has been s she has sleepless nights and gana na karunga guilt feelings.

unknown 33:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 33:50

Wow, um, Mamin.

SPEAKER_12 33:53

Sister, anoga going kung dito. Una kwa intention na ta ng. Na bingan pung tala sa dito.

SPEAKER_04 34:02

Ani na mgali s din sh. Bina li bani lain lapta.

SPEAKER_12 34:06

Oh, n nabalik nila yung lapta.

SPEAKER_04 34:08

After three years.

SPEAKER_12 34:09

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 34:10

Mmm.

SPEAKER_12 34:11

Sabike Sabike sister, but mg kinoha.

SPEAKER_04 34:14

Hmm.

SPEAKER_12 34:15

She's she was my friend and she was telling me na ita bilang to kasa yindi pa na nyay na gaga meetin. So, wala sang alam na dun pala sa madrin na yon.

SPEAKER_08 34:24

Hmm.

SPEAKER_12 34:25

Nung na discover yon, parang grabi yung guilt feeling. Sha' madre di wa parang mga guilt feeling. Right.

SPEAKER_16 34:31

Uh.

SPEAKER_12 34:32

But because being a Dominican parang, sabikum, how are you able to not discern or gana sabinya hing de sabi nya we saf parang an always at mercy. Sabi ku. Ay na seastef sa kand di papa nguru at mercy. Aikang gana mgin wwa kana kasalana at mercy paran. Sorry ya. Taka nan tawa saab, prag tata wanan ng na ganang. Yeah. I don't siggur sa iga parang, magin waka na kasalana. Ta ying ka ganan tawa, dpa tata warang, sabikwe di.

SPEAKER_04 35:03

Oh. Da pat me matoto nan yang consequence. Oh, di salana nan.

SPEAKER_12 35:08

Balangan. Nanan na. As a human being, pa hastayu dapa ng ma intin niha m yungga ng consequences.

SPEAKER_04 35:15

And doktor, bakit psychology ng pinidimo.

SPEAKER_12 35:18

A tri biasma. Oh waye, uh, I started saint Paul's Biesma. And then during the time, a first year after, parang na establish it to. At hindi kon tiny nihan. Because this is actually a partnership between a best friend of my parents to Dr. Brown. So he was an American. Tapas na yon ang from 1979 up to 1982, we only catered to seminarians, nouns and priests. Yun lang pa shanti na min.

SPEAKER_03 35:56

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 35:57

So payang na kaptuwana in the morning, i maskame, kase baw pala sapare na hindi mgmi misa. So me morning maskameh, me afternoon maskame. Kait na konti pa lang pa shianti namin nun. Nahat kami nagmi misa.

SPEAKER_17 36:10

Grave.

SPEAKER_12 36:11

Za ba nag feeling ko bless ta laga yung lugar no, yun unang ginoa yon. Dokase aro aara nag mimisa dun.

SPEAKER_08 36:17

Mm.

SPEAKER_12 36:17

And then eventually shamper nag evob na na mero na panya, me na refer na nabago. So ina is na na hindi na talaga for lay people naya.

SPEAKER_04 36:27

Mm-hmm. Tapos dunag singular problem.

SPEAKER_12 36:31

Since ninang start na BS mataho, sabi na naiko, si no mgmama na nito. Hmm yung eldest naamin kasa is uhl learner, so mala. Talagang tumutulung lang din sha, then yung youngest namin, masipag mga, uh, ni hindi wa masipag, pero okay shagun yang mg doctor ka so. It turns out, na after yung pre-med, akinwaha bedmate.

SPEAKER_17 36:55

Mmm, betana na ria.

SPEAKER_12 36:58

So sabi nyangan, ey ka, sa m nya basemat, kus okay naak dun ni. Sab nya epa nuto, so I have to shif. Paralang ma intany handin. And during the parang struggle yung first year kwa se parang king di pa gan naka interessada psychology. Tapas. Mga overload pa ako da kasi diba o dong mara mg ano minor substap, pero yung akad sampa mgdu double time. Tapas.

SPEAKER_04 37:24

And then during my time Pang la year na muna ba yung college.

SPEAKER_12 37:28

Ah, na ka second year na ko yung seven years. Mga na ng mga third year na. So, yun. Pero naga na major so, i na ga overload ko. Na pa ng feeling ko nbi ku kaya. Pero nakaya nagorin. Kasi n yung BS mat ko consortium shia. So I take my I take my major sub sa sain scholastika en lasal. Pero la nag minor sub sa myha bangkoi. Kaya gana. Parang per gana kasi yung na consortium program. So I have to go there. And then nung na yarin nung ganung ano situation uh sabi ko parang pa na ring na papapago na ko. So shif wa ako mwa kay na mancha. Eh anasila, yung pagiting na third year, na ki cleansing ng ano psych. So meaning to say paw saan pabas di wa. So, na ka abut pa nako. So, ng time ko for you to be able to finish psych four years and two summers. Ka sa sabrangami. Unlike yung a yon na iba yung programapan m mung board. Tapo sakalako, after that sa because experience. Kailang mmatuto ka sa a diverse group of people kay mgtaba sa kabier na. Sangtabaha kwa sa gabi sa Mental health? No, sa ge sa guidance and special education services, guidance council and special education services and division of city schools ng manela. So, during the time I go to 28 pra uh public high schools and 53 no ng time na yon 53 na elementary schools.

SPEAKER_04 39:11

Si no pa mayor nan.

SPEAKER_12 39:13

Uh mayor baga ching Oh. Ng time naon sa mayor baga ching pa. Tapos Sempre noon, iba yung iba yung an ataka sa mga a mga principal pa mga magician. Hmm So brung just nun na talagang paganda han ng mga principal's office. Kasi anti ng emangko se na hoko yung budget. Kasi, per paganda han talaga. Okay. Yeah. So alam t so and then I felt parang because of the fact na alam ni lang ng mas ako so parang sabiang kami a yusi muto. Mm yung budget na gang to parang dun na gumb andiku ya ta kaya. Pero gina go wako. Because budget. Diva parang alam na mana non pa mana mina corrupt. So talagang masmala ki lang yung blown out into proportions yungga yung perang naon gana na parang. Isi resira budget na yan. Pana magaga wayan, kaya kushang statistic uh statistics wise, math wise hindi mumahu li yang pak magalinka. Paga mung kumpana naparang pa ikut ikuti mo hindi lama hala kumpano magi yungonon.

SPEAKER_04 40:28

So gina wama. Sempri.

SPEAKER_12 40:30

Oh Ta was d bali na k dito. So ng bali k dito sabi kung, and da mikum pinak da anda na male. So after that shampre na dito na ako sempri gusakong meetan on my own. Kasi iba na mang yung dito na bini biga ng pera nana iunga bibiga. Soila, mi mga ibang raket and then eventually mga ng isang raket um analy.

SPEAKER_05 40:59

Analment.

SPEAKER_12 41:00

Etun boomalek ah yung naiko Shamperdiba Christian yan Tapas Catholic Christian Tapo Sabinya. Don't you know you're destroying a family gan yang yang yang binana gana sabinga nan. Tabus pean point nya alam nya kase, na alam morensa, anal mint hindi la hatuto.

SPEAKER_04 41:21

Mmm, alam na pepe ki dimpaye.

SPEAKER_12 41:23

No, what I mean, kayana nagiwali kasi gusin ngga sawa naiba.

SPEAKER_04 41:27

Mmm.

SPEAKER_12 41:28

And what happens to the children?

SPEAKER_07 41:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 41:31

Sa yun yung point.

SPEAKER_07 41:32

Mm.

SPEAKER_12 41:32

So sabin yangan, alam nya, sabin yar, you're destroying a family. Sabin nya. Alam ko, kabin yanganan, these people wanted analmith, not for reasons na gan to, but for them to be able. So sino gana kno aunty, oh, na sina bi to yang, gin yung gingya. Tapo sabi kung si yi si yi si gi. Tapu s de konsencha. Na konsensha na. Pero sabi ko si gay, lailo, lailo. Tinga normalong psychiatrist, nama yo medical director kunon at chaka pay yung sang psychiatrist. Sabany yamy bagutaang rakat sabi, maganda to, yung kikitay murito, ng dalong ban, kiki taim mwang hiya ng sangbug taon. Sabi nyang kang wow, sabi kwa ng.

SPEAKER_13 42:12

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 42:12

Sabi nyang mg pa panel kalang. Sabiko, okay yi se ki panel ta yo, dila lung nagal tang naiko. Pase panel kame for GRS. Sa no wat's GRS. Kapanel kame for gender assignment ngbec. A nin dok. Ira reassign, I mean yung y mga yung mga bek, yungga homosexual changed sex. Tabas ipapana name ik clearance name yang before the undergone gan to.

SPEAKER_04 42:38

Mira na palaga ng nun pa.

SPEAKER_12 42:42

Sabinang naneko. Why are you spending so much time and office ng k interview gun nyanganya ka yin tapl nganyang to. Tapa sabinya opumta paya na sailanganya ba nga. Tapasung na lam nan naniko. Oh, hanya, masmal hana yan. Hindi wangini hanyan, pa nokung angusuna ng diba hindi yan ano hindi and papa ding ibale kin sedate sabingan. Gasi nginayan permanent yan, sabingan epa nkung na karan nganto. Tapas That's the first time nana ngasa la gusan mang yare. I don't psychologist and nito. A n lhat ngusu kung raketan natrabhu ng psychologist, pero hindi tu mutugma. A yangi ako na glu yin tata lawyer. Eka yandi nga glu kasi alung kupong tata tangulakosama sama et pippili tumana yungasama. Habikung kan. Tabas na yun itumasama pare. So begin yung na answer. Habikon bigin yonguna answer. So na punta ako sabingan metumawa, so ng time nagti TV TV ng sabi. Umpedi hu mga audition. Sabiko audition. Sabu in audition bang psychologistangapukasin audition Face to face, but during the time. So nung time na yun pa ng reluctant parinak. Kindi parin nah. So it was a time na men pa nagang nahawa na annulment. Parang siku naga tragang jusa. Sabiny menung kanang kumpi na sayo hindi pa bina tawa nyan. So it was a time na nga na ng uh dramatic, sober dramatic. I bled din na go ako ako sa stages in super dugojun. And yin mata ya ho. Nalang. So dakasi parang anan nag bleeding ako nun. Panang dikola, bigang total bleeding sha. Tapas talagang ng tarnan bino kata dna ako hospital, dina hungakurna consciousness. Pero anatoha taina shoot. So, persumi kupa sa, ta pah nsi doctor Mari, shame palit ki saken, tapas pa ngato yu show. Tapas nung nande na ako na sa ear, parang dada salaho, Lord zabikunganon. Ayung mutataloganon, tuma ugitao sa lawyer, kaya ta hilong hilako, ma'am, sabikungga non, bab ibi biko na pula hat ngbayad na ibiniga ny sake, n sabi nga no kase, ndikunakay n tangapiny kas. Delo wa yon binaliko laha. And then after that everything went smooth.

SPEAKER_03 45:12

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 45:13

Tapa sabi kungga ngatay sabi kungato wala hui babay ads.

SPEAKER_14 45:18

Yeah. Hospital.

SPEAKER_12 45:21

Uh said this sabikoi mga mi feel hil tako. So per malakh paren. Shever hand is parin yung ano. Tapas gula tako. T B five gave something, gun it the other group gave something, ma'ang nabucha. Nabuya nagan. So parang sabiko, to hindi kupina babba an njostalaga. Tapa sabiko, sorry, sorry, sorry, pala gang ganan. Pala kung ginago apagma, sorry Lord, sorry, sorry, paranganas muna na manaho, at na malina na mana ko. Palaga male, habi hunganan, and I confess, sabikungana na hindi ako hindi sa hindi ako nini wala kaya na ngkulang yung fate ko. So parang when I started with yung ya yung sa lam na yan, sabiko, uh medical doctor, sabikungga non top sa ko cyclo sabiko why me? I asked them, why me?

SPEAKER_08 46:12

Hm.

SPEAKER_12 46:13

Tapas sabinya kasibha dan sagut nila. Ndi nami alam. Hmm Dina sagut sa ng ng tinang dinamin alam kung bakat ikao den. Basa na gula talangame, andamin naming tinanong, walang gusto. Tapas ikau, big ng ng tanung ka ba kit.

SPEAKER_03 46:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_12 46:34

Kaya no se nagut namin, ikau yun. Parang nung yung yung messages na pung nakaita matalaga Bakit po ako abiga ng emara ypungta nisa pasabin nya. Iko yun. Tabas dina kamin nagsoo, nan ng ki takita kamisa zoom, dun nakamina nago sapusam na. Pang uh we interested nga nyan. Dina kamina na gula.

SPEAKER_04 46:56

Wow. So simula ng dokal na kila la yesha.

SPEAKER_12 47:02

Tabus and then at the same time din densa lam pa lang sila rin na ng sabe na gusoka na min, parang diri na kumb baka tikao.

SPEAKER_04 47:10

Hmm.

SPEAKER_12 47:11

Palang la hat unexpected.

SPEAKER_04 47:13

Hmm. Up tep kalang simula tung yung clinic of double spirit.

SPEAKER_12 47:18

1979.

SPEAKER_04 47:19

Oh, isi no fa na found.

SPEAKER_12 47:21

Yung parents ko chakay se na sab because Dr. Brown. K they started it with with the na ka kolab kami nahal sah ng patients were from Christ the king a chakha mm Dominican.

SPEAKER_04 47:32

But Clinic of the Holy Spirit.

SPEAKER_12 47:34

Um because uh no it was supposed to be a therapeutic community parang to enlighten. Parang the mission is to enlighten the people with mental health issues. And then during that time, it's just it was a taboo. Na parang when you talk about mental health eye out. So parang so no they cannot um parang when they were trying to call yung parang nun brainstorming sula, kung sa sa be nating hospital, na la la bas sa parang kaga na mental.

SPEAKER_07 48:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_12 48:05

So they decided na bagung parang clinic lang sha, but it's a facility. And it was so hard for them to register it as a na parang to get a permit. Kasi hindi mg identify ng time na yung ng, early seventies, a late seventies and early eighties kung anung kategori na min. And even the DOH cannot give us a permit.

SPEAKER_01 48:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 48:28

Dang dirin na alam kwa ng kategory na me. Pero sabikung na una din nam samin. Tabas on na kalga ki langdu sa Saiba Rehab Center, hindi naka mi rehab. Gusa naamin se kyati facility talaga.

SPEAKER_04 48:43

So dik sabind doh hindi ka nagata ngap dito ng patient?

SPEAKER_12 48:46

Bi mero kame, we have inper ng time na yon parang hindi naam min malama ku anang kategoria na min. Kase we wanted everything to be legal diba. So, sa sek okay na sha, sa permit hindi na hindi kami maha kwa na mayor'permit. Kasi hindi alam kung an dong kategoria kameh. Taba hindi din alam, hindi ma consider na hospital. Right. Per me in patients. So, ang ta gir non palang nakalagil lang sha rehab rehab, na kasula t lang. Pero hindi kami rehab, sabi na min.

SPEAKER_04 49:19

Do sa practice mobilang psychologist, doctora ni da realize mo so dito sa Filipinas.

SPEAKER_12 49:25

I mean umghirap, kusi there are times na ka hit na yung ha, ka hit na yun, even la start with last year. Mero mga bata, because the gensi now are more into mental health, na mas na must nga na awareness. But the point is, other parents do not acknowledge ku ana yung na nila, kuan mental health issues nila. And sila misma sabin, I saori po hindi hu maha ka puntas. Kasi ayo payaga ng yang parents. So, yung struggle yon. Second, um hang yun nan day parin na ninywala na mas possession anangare ka sa mental health issue.

SPEAKER_04 50:09

Oh, na sa provinces. So dina dal albulario.

SPEAKER_12 50:13

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_04 50:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 50:14

So pak dina sab albulario sempri dependi na. Pero yung iba na mba k maka na mg refer, bak din dina las albulario. Oh. Dina lang kakar ng li na. Parangga nonon. And then third, um hangang a yon, pangdinan no. I psychologists ka anin nahikita msa kain. N dia kung mga hula. Iba na yin yung parin. Oh, parin nyang mga ano. Parang ewang. Ewakung ka mgbabago. Tingin na mga ibang tao. Sa psychologist and psychiatrist. Psychiatrist tako sila kasela mla pambalio. Persa psychologist feeling nila, yungga ng. Mghuhula.

SPEAKER_04 50:54

A mga pay bapal psychiatry, psychologist.

SPEAKER_12 50:57

Psychologists they give medication, psychiatrists. And then they into medical at kaha maha med anasila. Md talagasila. And then ng anasila into psychiatry. Psychologists talaga three tulisha. So it depend when you want to branch out from industrial setting, so you become an HR person, pag school setting, you become a professor sa akad's, and then pang sa clinical or into guidance and counseling.

SPEAKER_01 51:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 51:21

Parang sakin, as I go along parang, parang I never parang na ma pupuntako sa ganitung situation na into counseling. Kasi parang na consider ko after ng matagonako with the patient, it became more of a vocation rather than a career for me. Kasi hindi na mang shatalaga yung fabihimo na kumi ki tako na sabra sabra for reasons na gusu kung yo mama. Yes. Pero tin naturo ang kung yo mama na mga y sujanti ko. Sabiko first 10 years or fifteen years sang bhuhay mg, gusu mungy mama.

SPEAKER_05 52:03

Mm.

SPEAKER_12 52:03

So mga. Kareer. And after that, ang ysi pungang give back and pay forward.

SPEAKER_05 52:09

Amen.

SPEAKER_12 52:10

So during the time yung early 2000, it lapa ng shamper yun yung ng time na pa ng I'm on my forties, pa ng ganan, so ka nakalang, I have to do something. So, since na pa limited ang anantaota ang yinaga assess, I do assess for those who wanted to be a form di sa Saint Paul. Tapos paka tapa sa napunta dinam na ko sa seminar mga seminar. Yungon, parang tulung na lang yon, walang bay dun basatin no tulung kolang sila. Kang parang albula na man, kase angri gala sa hen zo man, a kakanin, tawas met naga pastries, and hangang yun, gan parin tina tangabapko. Ka kuna pasimu kumba takum maka nkanina na cookies in parti.

SPEAKER_04 53:05

At least dika go tong palag.

SPEAKER_12 53:08

Oh, yin mga bini biga pa. Sabinin mwa kma tangab ng ano k alum nina sabin nan nahiya sula ka it anabbingi kizai.

SPEAKER_04 53:15

Hmm. Sara mga santo?

SPEAKER_12 53:17

No.

SPEAKER_04 53:18

Yeah yeah Rosary.

SPEAKER_12 53:19

Lahat halas ng lang. Yeah ngaalis lahat jan big.

SPEAKER_04 53:22

Biga yi. Wow.

SPEAKER_12 53:23

Walang hindi.

SPEAKER_04 53:24

Nice, nice. So yin yung ministry of counselling, anduping pinakamal king pakbabago nan la kikita nyu sa mga familia na bo malik Jesus through confession holy communion.

SPEAKER_12 53:34

I have none. Sabrang sa brang struggle nita the point na She was uh Mazor sa isang cruise ship and she know what she's doing what she was doing then was wrong. For reasons na kayasha tumatangap ng extra services for reasons da bi yung pamil na kailangan ngamito. And then when she left, time ng kobidyon hindi nya laam kung papaano. By accident kuto na kilala. Makaba picture taking on na koder kasa kailangan saano sa high school ID. ID panang particular na. Tining pa nya. Aye, Kamil Garcia, kayu po basiganto. Face the face uh sabinya sabinya, alumon sabinya, punta kasa shapko sabinya mira nahung ispa. Tabasa sabinya sab eh, habiko pair pase, nde do libre sa pumantahala. Nice uh because libre na man inta big mento. Pinadala nya sake sonda adi klaha tapas yung mga pinang da anan nya yung mung na to sa hindi mga sa pasabi k sala sabikungan. Bagut time counselling, pa hindi gorila la kung bakul kasinabi yang bagut time counselling. Try to go to confession. Habigangan, disconfess it. Kung kung hindi ka comfortable, konsini yung nakita mung pare na bigla k mbagi king comfortable, tapas sabih mulha. Tapas na gula ta kodita shya sa me kuba same anipangalin ta ridem and bayon ascension yung pangala nung church don. Paranga ging comfortable sa don. Sabinya na konfessha, tapas nagul cha ia kdo sh na yea. Tapasi sabina, dok sabinyye balikadita, oh si gaba baligako. Tapas sa pay tamawang, tapa sabinyya mi bago hung ano technique nganya, tapas mi bago hung gamet, sabiko si gi se, total masahilang nam tara ngusoko. Taskwento sha, kwento, tapas sabiko, ganto nagwambu napala. Invod mi sa rindi muka hit anglas ng kabbaho sa church. Ngula hang ano an expert. Tas nga asher sha. Pera myaman tha naging asher sa church. Tapas kung mok bi hairs alamung ka blonde hair, tapas sabi kung ganan parashin pepe ding gany na suat map pak ng asher ka kasiye bawal ya.

SPEAKER_04 56:16

Ma di distruck yung.

SPEAKER_12 56:19

Oh, marami bibga yung mahatao sa simba, peren di pape ganyung suatmo gana sabi. Alam yung ana yung mommy na saab branga. Sinpa na kalampalang cheerleader. Tapa sabi nya ay, sabiny ya, oh, sabi kung panin kin na wardrobe. Kasi sabi ko shamba ibayon, acha sin si ko yme ari na spa be decent na panang corporate andu na yang. So do spa flourish, the lava name branch. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:47

Tumi gin na rinsa sa.

SPEAKER_12 56:48

Wala na shanan. Asin tumi girha. And then uh my partner sa left. She left. As in parang anga yang silin ng balawa ng anak nya chakasha.

SPEAKER_04 57:01

Single mamsha.

SPEAKER_12 57:02

Uh uh, single mamsha pero sa parin na khapapat provide sa mga patin nya. Yung ka patin nya ni yung mga a sawa non, naging mga msa histya.

SPEAKER_04 57:11

Massa is to din.

SPEAKER_12 57:12

Uh uh, tina no anya la hat.

SPEAKER_04 57:13

Nice. So mikali sari sarilina s lang masupa.

SPEAKER_12 57:17

Uh oh. Bela wana bale ta' mina manage na yung.

SPEAKER_04 57:21

Delay chy pak ya serv nya.

SPEAKER_12 57:23

Uh oh. Pandemic sabinganyo. Hula sabbiny yang gun, eh, hula no masamai. Dimagda de silka paren. Tapas bigang bung nagresum, uh oh. Nag grisum sab. Neka sabigunga stop yang na ng church ng for an kasu tawag lang. Andalang done parang una tawak tawa glang sha tapasuna bigana alum khasindi kwa lung kung aninpaging spirituality ko una una tanugi mohun versesab Bible. Pi pi na kama iksi pi na kama iksi yung sasabin ksa yo kasa yun langusuko. Hanganan, apina kmahabana y for god so loved. Tabaza wasahan. Bahang masmarami kapang ma memori sine. Kasi sabinya baghe, sabinganon kase, akusuko, yung nandusa huding hudina revelation, yung me amen. Sabasabinyangan, huh? Sabinang gana hindi maheta mori nyo pangba sahad, kase hindi ako ng kano. Pero hindi kudin ma intini niha. Na long time na sabikun uhuringa alam, sabikungan. Uh, sabi kasini, meno kasi ya knakal alam para sabingga. If you do one thousand hail marys, you could be able to gun. Tabus gina waku shia, parang nagula ta kunga ging to too, yung hini healing kuna gin to topas sabing most power sabiko powerful bang hail mary sa our father. Mm. Pa ng nag question na khosa ganon. Tabospera sabiko a hindi. Tabasan da sometimes other people have intrusion of thoughts ng ng mga from negative thoughts or something positive. Sake lately eto mga almost a month nag intrusion of thoughts ko kanta ng how greed thou art thou sa ng ba hapit sometimes pero sabi ka ainda okay lang ba ying na buting na kantalang yung puma pasok sa uuta kun.

SPEAKER_04 59:25

Yeah. And doctora, kanina na bangit mo, diba sabi mo yung bod kasa face-to-face, ta paska rafi tulfa, sabi mo na parang grabi mg parang sabi mg diabolic nay ma na.

SPEAKER_12 59:37

Ah yeah, diabolic nde sensa shampre. There was a time, yeah, the evilness na three year what what satisfaction can you get from a four years old? And then sa na ko sabiimo ibang tao kaso father, uncle, lolo. And then there was even this particular last year I have mel mga certain caso. Na sabang an tagalbago na annoso panang nag punta o sa biko sirbs uh your honour it's so difficult for me because this has been uh case three years ago. Ebaak nail nag start yung caso. Kasigang yung nahuliin lolo all the mgakapate three girls and one boy min or less la hatin lolo. Ohang kait male Kusuk sabiin nung hino le atabin sa mga n pressabata hindun. Kasi elungi maha gatire ni mgabata. Sab esa pressa pa nama man magnala ka na mag kidnap ka na nawala hangina gwawa pero mangrip ka ngika patato.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:57

Ah, tangi mo malala na bang moral decay morality ng uhulung when it comes to point na at least ng yare na na tulin ka so banda dito for counselling lang.

SPEAKER_12 1:01:14

Tap processabihdi demand kayo hinde. Like a backet. Sinadom tatta baho para kumi tapara sa magai baanang.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:27

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_12 1:01:29

Second, there was this instance na nga naqsha ana anaksha nag yungba din bata anak nan tata. And then sabiko dg kuni ni na pu yung bata nito sabanya. Emi anak din nahoi sabago nya asaba.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:44

Hmm.

SPEAKER_12 1:01:45

Tungba ta, hmon yungaga situations, it it hurts. Parang feeling ko ang anunba. Ka it dasalang kutu parang wula nganya tang escape na tungba natung ma ka pakbago pa de kasu wula ngusung mano tungulung. Kia sa habikusana bayang bayam mang bayam na kapangan.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:05

Ye. And diba saabimu a yung mga rave na man nara rape. Tabas ang pedi pang warsa mung war sempre blessing parin ng bata. Panyare, peru saana la ting warse n na buntisila ga nyye.

SPEAKER_16 1:02:19

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:20

And na yun marami na kupush guso abortion. Ikawa angating imajan doktoras.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:25

Still not into it. For reasons na parang everybody deserves a birthday. So kung talugang di maka yang alagna an anta mina mang si gorung mga orphanages na chakamara foundation who'll be able to anoung but I have a sin. Hindi sin na ano um womanizer yang father ko. So during the time of his death, me begun do mating. Hangin na mina la. Na, gano kala kina mga anak. Ng baba in. Why I cannot it's not that I cannot forgive. I for I have forgiven. Pero it's not it's because I cannot forget.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:03:12

For reasons the girl happens to be wala akung iban ka ibiga ng high school because I'm very observant, laha ibiga n ko wala kung best friend. Sin secretary cha ng tata i ko swa lang yung best friend ko. At shayun. Hmm sang ka naqsalad. Belawa. Uhindi sa ano, parang gusoko for peace of mind, wala akung connection sahanla. So na nama yung father ko, yung nana ko ini bita parinsila, parangita for last respect, but n di ka alam na dina gana. So parang, I made rules kin yang ganyyan. So after that, wala na, asin wala, pero the children wanted to reach out. Not for anything else, I really don't know what. Pero gusto don't nila mg greach out. Shampre ako, ayukunga ediba, gusto gum tahimi mik ng buhai natin pa. Sug nyo. Na grich out sila, sa mga kasinko. Hmm gab sila nga kasinsko, kasimer silang class problem. Parang sabiko. Huh? Eh hungga hindi tapus ka yu ganyan, parang gusu kung sabihe natin ngko, pero parang hindi ko parin kaya. Na apki na yunin se gurung parang hindi na mala konba bother, pak dating sa ganyan. Pero I I Silarinaman, Io dinamanri magri out, so sakin par hasuna t n tahimik nabaye so okay lang sati. Kung gusamo, ba sapinag dadasalko na some day yung sa riliko, maging ano ko tahimi kakona hindi kokain' tin di hen. Atei ren magin magan day buhay nyo. Actri magan debuhe na diver in Canada noi.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:50

Hmm, wow.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:52

So okay lang, tapas this na sabin n baldko, but ayamsa America. But ayam mu dito. Diko nalang. Hmm. Alam sa as sub this time, gusung magbakashaan, perenni siko, pag nak bakashina ko, wala mga si kasa dito, ko wa paciente. We have twenty-eight live in patients now. Papashikisa yang nasa naha konfine ya dandi na kan ngaga we.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:16

Yeah. Kisa yang common sa ma dipa pro choice ya my rights daw sila my body, my no uh.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:24

Sakan si guro, if it's a case of rape, tapas talagang hindi talaga anon na sabihinati n wola pa asin ka sihi mera na mgasing prophylaxis after. Sana naga wa yungga non. Pero kung sabi natin hindi talag pa ng hindi talagang natulisha. Parang manami na mg talaga ding tumutulang. Kasi ayoko naman I was able parang Biskoitung blug na toa sang kato kna pung kutong na sabuhe kutuha I uh I experienced blighted up. Womb, miscarriages, ectopic pregnancy, hilahat naka classing. So I only have one son. So para sakin gusto kum maka nakna marami, tapasin yakob binigan, kasi mali ring ng gino wako. Because I always said, God ka hit isalang. Sana sinabiko lord sana dalawa. Kase kundalawa yang si gura binigainya.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:22

Yin yung pina point kupalaga na mali yung dasalko, da kasa di wa pag ng dasal kay, tasabi ming gus kumu, na na no pera sinabiko se gil lord kahit isalang. Mali yung kahit isalang. Sana sinabiko lord basu ka gusakung mara me anak.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:35

Oh, pen ka for life.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:36

Oh, so e kasunga sinabiko isalang oe yang. Isalang bini sa experience kapal lahat ng sufferings, ng miscarriages, of course. Kangakar na nung breeding, mm. Nga nong stage. Nga face-to-face.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:53

Iko nabalita nya na.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:54

Hi, we. Magang an yon di pepa ding magung uh anta gito. Sinari sa an yung entertainment go asang pur du go yung stage.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:08

Uh Bali do sa face-to-face, but kasa mga doctor loved very devout kat Dominican pasha.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:16

Oh. Pero before it was uh father son ananayas marida yung unang face with uh attorney ben akosta. It used to be the pal chief attorney persida tapas napakan. And then eventually it was changed to face the people. Kasi nag changed na rinang uh hostum sano. So lawyer namin is attorney karin hime, and attorney benafosta. Tapas nag change ule si ma si Karla Estrada na Dana. Si Doctor Lab ako chaka kasi attorney kapunan. Tapsi change enaman, sikorina na, nandu barina ako ya sabiko. Sigura talagun kinilaga ma punta jar.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:01

Oh. I mean asing mudang episode na to logan modal.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:07

There's this episode. Aki hindi ako during that time. Nan na lungutako. Because it was a time na sake ng nan kasakin naga ako di ba. So sakani refer then. Ang episode win to lito prostitute. So parang sa club sh ng taba. So ngata ba shanganan. There is this uh every day, every night, sino sundusha ng tricycle para y hataj sa baha. And then na ging lover sha ng na ging lover ny yung tricycle driver. Although yung tricycle driver may live yung partner.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:49

Mm.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:50

So it was a time na magbi birth, why why she escaped from the province? Kasi, yung living partner ng na nain nya gustung sa m Aisia. That's sabin na Sama yina ninda. Yeah me dan molesta hingar. So, sabinga nung ano ng na nainya. I sabi nya dusana ma putana mumberti ko kasin mi pea ngana ko kakwa msay yang kata ta ganyanganya nanto. So, pumang tana, kasa gusunga ngagain ma ayo. And then, ng pumuntain na nai na gulat ya spin na kila la nyana. Pana sana binyya ma ating boyfriend ko. Papa nya! So, face to face. So na face to face y la. Kasei angna fa face to face, yung nana. Kase gusinya matapu sha pero hindi nya nan kupana hal. Sino nasa show na sha, dun se nanda. Super iak paladun baba is a simulashang alam. After ng na divulgs na yung ano yung information na gana lahap. Uma we got yung nana. Ka sa nata tako chana ng to. Yung tata, grabi yung ano, yung gale, plah, tasa me nga yar nan ishana kasa di boyfri n. Yeah. So the following day, na punta yung tata, made along panset, explication of five panel, sabinya and naken ng mgabang yem. Eh, wada sa iba ng metabang. So I have to call some person. Becauseakal meyon, tung na kita kun na matanda, tako ta ho. Kasi feeling ko karang na entertain na kung tataiko.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:43

Mm.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:44

Sa yin y na dung fear. But eventually turn up. Para sha lang yung final na anon na case na matagal, na paramala mga kung nagbago se ngbuhaina. Asin ngbado talata. She's married now.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:00

Wow. Wow.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:01

Bag pakasal sa, hindi yung anila.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:04

Katholik to.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:04

Oh. Ngpakasal.

unknown 1:11:07

Hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:08

Yung na pangasawa nyye na nakilala mga.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:13

Ain no, ngiku na kilala, pero pina kita lang sagan pictures.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:16

Hmm. A nung trabah.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:19

Ama ayu sa?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:20

Sanya nakhilala?

SPEAKER_12 1:11:22

Dun din sa club. Oh. Na topasi nabina sa rinya. Tapa sinabina kwa na pana nmusagan topa na orimo. A ting buhaiko.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:31

Hmm. Tasin nggabsha.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:34

Oh, call center.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:35

Nah. Call center ng as nga yung change natalaga.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:40

Changea.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:41

Hmm. A mung bait bi mga taung distong i public mguainila. I mean shamprin na kaya yang doktor right.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:50

Oh, ona uh sometimes there are issues na you wanted to resolve, pero hindi ma resolve sa barangka. Second, there are certain instances wherein along kwa after the money for the talent fee.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:02

Ibi bide. Oh, why wait?

SPEAKER_12 1:12:04

Para limited ng. But if you're struggling now for fit for your finances, definitely talagang puman takadon. And then third, sometimes um I really know I really don't know how the researchers are able to convince these people to have their dirty law uh linen. Right. And they can they can do it. Paranganon. Parang sahan parang ha utan gan to gang too, it's not a good thing. Parang and then when when some controversial issues happen like that, parang sakan msayanak the first episode in Carlos uh face-to-face during the time was reunions. They know they have a father, but they have never met the father because it na kita baho. Pero yung tata y na mangus sung sun yang makay mga anak nya. It so happened yung nana na mataina. And then it was a reunion na sobrang nag kapata waransula and everything kasa na ka lila mung first. And then the rest. And then parang sangabe, tai wa ka ng mgtabahud so many la mwika ng ng sebu, and then karla did so much para yung pamila na yal maggima eyes.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:21

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 1:13:22

Yma gano.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:22

Probon yin.

SPEAKER_12 1:13:23

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:24

Hmm.

SPEAKER_12 1:13:26

Fell out of her oung pak yung.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:28

Wow. So itong gina goany parang minis rin na din talaga na.

SPEAKER_12 1:13:32

Oh. Because now ate koring is telling them na if there are mental health issues, kindi do the counselling, I do it. Second, if there are instances they need the medications, kasu walasilang provision, but kasan city has, I give. Kasi y lang kayaku. I cannot give a washing machine, I cannot give televisions or whatever yung so nanangan ilang kayako, sabikung. Because that's the only thing that I can give. And then sabikung na taon, sabikungan, we have a yuda coming from from the city government na sabra sabra. Tapas e na taon walang ma ibi gay for the audience na yung makga ano. I gave. Yung sabiko kayana puru is nakakam, dud shen ba la kaum pan, it sa subdivide.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:20

Uh-huh. Yeah. And dok pakusa pa na manati. Pan mung pa no banati malaman kung ang depression, na mental health issue lang o me spiritual warfare na in bold.

SPEAKER_12 1:14:31

Well, it's so difficult for us to assess at first. Because when you talk about depression, sometimes these people do not talk. Second, if ever they talk, it's so typical na parang kanga non, na pa ka disporik ng mood, sometimes they isolate themselves. Pero one thing, if they into med if they are into medication one, magogulat kanal bingamo.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:56

Hmm.

SPEAKER_12 1:14:57

Kaita na big m ng pang. Like, walata lagang talabamo. Second, hindi kumma intendi hand, pero some outpatients do you go to church? So they cannot go to church.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:13

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_12 1:15:13

Hindi yunga, I do not go to church. I cannot, though. I cannot go to church. Baga sabing angulo. Sabiko you're supposed to be at peace when you're in church. Sabin yangan, parang somebody's telling me to go out. Sabiko do you hear voices? They hear certain parangirams. They have to leave. And third, wanting na segura ma deciphering, yes, usually depressed people and they want to isolate themselves. So sak and you have to pray for reasons na there's oppression, there's whatever. Na kahik na depression yan and you wanted to understand na ka na situation na. And yet pa kina osa mm.

unknown 1:16:10

Hi!

SPEAKER_12 1:16:12

Sabas babi gang muna andamik hygiene kit yang kasa pinagagwa kam asujanti ko. Gusta kosa susuna dama ligu ka pa gang to. Eh yo kun dok sabi nyangan. Okay, nato, sabi kung gana kapos sabihi nung nagle reclamo. Dok sabi n yungga apat na nyang ayo palita dun yangan ng. So sakin, kasi kun depress ka. So sun kapa nsa magulang modi, but ng. Pero kaya sabi na there's something go. Pagatin saganyan. So sakin. I always ask at the end, regardless whether this involves uh anxiety, depression, or even any mental health issues, I always ask, are you a Catholic? And then they will say, why? Sabiko, Mamon tan ko po yes or no lang. Hindi ku why. Pak sin na bin nan ng yes sabi kung nun. But ng navi na puba kayo. Ta pa sabi nya. Hindi sabi nya. There is this particular saint advocacya ko poyam. Nanjan yung, um, I always ask them, na kungusunyo, you can pray to Saint Nims na.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:17

Saint Dim na, yes.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:18

I have a nine day nabina prayer for for you na hungiso. Akalilamo, na lungko ta kudun, kuse na wala ko yung relik. Bini gakamino authentic na relic.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:29

First class.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:30

First class.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:31

Binage sa naiko eh. Sonya na binagey sahanya from Ireland. Dina litala binage sakanya. May receipt pay any yon. Pape certificate lahat. Nice.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:47

Saya.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:47

Saya, saya.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:49

Pa na Saint Anthony.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:50

Okay, nah saw me gonna nakita kunin that saw bikung. Ai, it top li yung saint ng for gang to gantu. Tha sina yang bigini, to tas my certificate, pa sha tapa sina.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:02

Halun parts ng here.

SPEAKER_12 1:18:05

Ah mishya, um anantawang nito yung koko.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:12

Mm wow.

SPEAKER_12 1:18:15

Koko.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:15

Sa yang?

SPEAKER_12 1:18:16

Palang super lit lang sha tapasa. This is gantto. Panang a kasiyata ng ananyun ng ina diba kasi diba ng anisha ng anisha per preserves anin boons. Tapas bu upa da, ta pas yin diba yun a yon naging relic diba.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:31

Nice, nice. Kaza.

SPEAKER_12 1:18:32

Kala kungete.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:34

Oh. So pa kit gina gamit mway sa.

SPEAKER_12 1:18:39

Atiangga y nawala. She nawola telegasha ng renovate to. Kaya sabiko saha, yam nawola. Tapu sendin diba it so difficult. Paguntak sa kait na catholic centers walang statin saint na. But somebody uh somebody said nag Ai, kaga wang kitang an painting ni saintin na. Gina wang painting. Tapas malakaya sin na dusa.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:05

So na display.

SPEAKER_12 1:19:06

Dita sa aina sa amin nasa. Tapas ganto. Merbinigalaganya. Tapus sabiko. Ai. Pag tapas pakin explain kupa nahaka wak. Pogin explain ko shampe. Baka cha. Hindi na wun laya. Sabi kunguna. Ma'am, konga mga santo lahat na ka bang na ganyan. Sis ain't timp na. Malapit na pung ano, malapit na shang anatagdito, mankarun nag agyo, yung kupu anya, da wala ng dad dasal sahanya, daiko konti lang sahanya. So ma yun, halba wa yung bung street nyo, halba tungbu Los Angeles street, e bigla ka yun ng desal sahanya, si gurado, sasa go tin kayo, da hir kasei, ka yulang yung bukutang ng biglang ng dasal sahanya. Kasi sila saint anto ni sila pand bi pio, overload suma sakit ng uulu nila sa damina mga ng nagana sahala, ngda dasal sahana. Eka saint dim tna, ko kon tila. Tapozin na tata wasula, sabing ganan bakgen y explanation ma. Parama inti deh nyo kumb bakan ny shed dapat dasale. Hmm Kasi sabi kung na pakalim metad nga naang.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:12

Eh runga ba testimony na through her intercession.

SPEAKER_12 1:20:15

Oh, yungga ano, mga iba na mung anga person yo kibza mye. Ig problem, ma di silbuma bari sa.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:23

Nga nan nga yara. Uh uh Bali, yung sa case na mga suicide, doctora. Diva depression sa suicide. Ting mungbi no bulung sila n demonya. I guess so.

SPEAKER_12 1:20:35

I I believe in that for reasons na. Um ba yun. Mm isa yung ala, iting yung hule, pero mang isa kong patient. Adalawa dala wata. They are from saints cause you know they came from isa. Si, an uh Muslim yung parents. Pero nani ni pero anasele. Say imagin mm saints ko chala sal, so talgang kaso dik. Pero anusan, uh, Christian, ina anun nya, ina ina anun nya sale. Nung lan sain schools habinya. So brangalit nya dun sa teacher dal kasi. Hindi nya ma intin ni han, parang buly ring yan teacher ladya. Kmi sang so nan tung maldi to sa building na t nga nyangya. So na putash sa guidance da pas sabi hindi sha pap enroll unless mga undergona second. Nang ng psychological fit in fit to anna to go back to school. So okay na man then. Tapaspero sabi nyang do pani yan sabi nyangan tinalaga na I will die at twenty-four years old. Rabi. O sabiko twenty-four? Pani yon sabi kung ganan e twenty-three kana next year yon tapasabiny. Ain't kapa na glad witi. Gladika munya. Gan lang osa. Doh twenty-four na hung ayon. Sabinyanganan oh, nayon. Eh, but in dehung mama tai matay. Eh briku mungata put pata yin mi sa rili mwa langana mg, kailang makanoka pa ng papate parasayo. Gang paranganane o sa pana me. Sabinya tulungan moko. A hindi ya. I go, gangika ba. Kaya kangabu to sang paramabu tapas gusum mwa ako papataise yo. End of story. Bigang all of a sadin's habinya. Walagi, pak me problema shot, my message m yan, tapas kaya akhayaponta dito. And now, she's thirty-two. Kana yan, nti ka parin patay. Yun ni sa nah katawa yan tara gangan. Tapas d'injura a first a particular counselling before ma November ta last year. Ayo kuntulum, khaka, mama mate ta y na naimu, no kabba. Tapasin nan all of a sad na in love, sa isang um parang me sang ap sha, pero ano sha uh hindi sha dating apperan ng karasha ng boyfriendon rasha. And then this boyfriend has depression. Sabi sa kan yang gananon, you have to live. Sabing ganon, tos na question, shasab nya. Dok ba katganito, pare paras mkamami depression, bakat ya gusunya kumba buhai. Eh sib gusokany makita, sabikala nga nam po sadito yung gyunato tapas sa sabimu gusum mummatai. Yeah, tapasde sabi yungganan, ayamununun, sabiny yang kirap noon, eyu kunun, sabin yanganun, ey gusukung mama tai tapas gusinya, sabiko yibana in love ka. Sasabikbuhaine pisa, tapas deye, tapas sabina na kaka iniska sabi sa hangane usapa na min hindina spasha naka iniska, sabiny yanganan, kasi sabiny yaung salahatna na pupu milit na mabuhe yaho, samantalang akunga tumantuwa akuna ye bal sabinya go ahead, go ahead, pe asaka batini mutinotului. Mninikung ala misigurun lakasang kontra mumg dasal para hindi matului. Iba, isalang sinabiko, pumun ta sa kovid board, para pakmaha wa kadun nuka na mama tai, hawangano abbatini mugina gwawa, ey yoko mgsa safer rako precise isabika when y talk about lung gusu munganyan, na mama tai suffering yung aabutin mo hindi yung death na instant na gustu mu.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:20

At ka hit mgaka sagasaka, impossibling hindi kabubuha yin para pataga lin yung ago ni mubawa kwa mamamatai. Ta gusabinya, ay, naha ka inis. Yan yan yung sa. Second, meisa, na kaka kata wa sabin yon dok ayo kung gumaling. Kase pa gumaling a ko hindi kwa alamangga winko. Mm of which is right. Kase ang sabin yangganon, pa gumaling ako, alam ng mamba gulangko, hindi naha ku wunta sayo. Hindi na sena wbi begain ngera para pang ka se lingo. Right. And then third, masa luturi yunggi isp napani, yon wala ng wala na hunggain ng ska e hunggumalin. Waan, kuung kwa se. At this point muna hokailang ni da kasi graduate kani. Hmm, kusan di tu kasi dok kasi kaya, e na problem kasi gumaling aho problem. But diwa, sab se na paka anan ma tak ngung mata okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:19

Yeah. So, taki mudok, uh bakit ka bang mental health anon duma dami ba mas dumami bang yon?

SPEAKER_12 1:25:29

Sigura right after the pandemic, sabrang dumami. Second, ang na ging problema, it's not because of the uh pandemic issues. It's more of mas marami gensi ang mas sobrang seguro ang anon nagga al silang kanilang mental health ke Dr. Google kaya pak bung tadito, mera na silang statement na I think I have depression, I have bipolar syndrome, gan nyanganyan.

SPEAKER_14 1:25:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_12 1:25:57

How how sure are you that you have those symptoms? Sabing kanan. I I I had a research already, gun nyanganyan. And and then sabinang eti manifestations. So I just wanted to make you confirm yung mga assumptions ko kan. Sabiko.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:14

Yeah, yeah. G nun. Ganon yungya. Ya no ng baga yan Dr. Chat GPT na.

SPEAKER_12 1:26:22

T na man sabikung ose ge gaya kha jam. But remember, some medications being told by Chat GPT. Ko ni nakalogi dun sa mga prescript sa mga anan nela na sa label shaka sa histori ng gamat na yon. Pero sometimes hindi exactly na. Some medications are being used for a particular ganto to help ganito na mg alusi tung mga symptoms. Kea da patigil nmorin yung pagri research ng saw sobra.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:49

Yeah. Yung mga nk suicide thok babbalikoli tako. Intentional uh out of free will. Ting mba ba most of them out of their free will yan.

SPEAKER_12 1:27:00

Sometimes it becomes an accident. You know why? Kang kaita sa America sinnasabing ganan. They have to check whether a driver who had an accident and crash and died in a crash had previous psychological history or during the time what brought about yung crash. Because sometimes when you drive and then you thought about na parang, you were betrayed or you lost somebody. So you were thinking psychological yung effect. And they will not and they will say na it's suicide rather than it's an accident na banga alang sila or na karna na na crash at na matay sila. And then dito ren prepare na gana ng pagi isit natin. But definitely para sabihimo to assume na mga mika na suicide, some way or another, ang brain mo or yung mind mo talag ng karan ng fits of depression. Kasi hindi ka ng maggi isit ng ganon kung hindi ka nakarandam ng something nan talang. A very stressful or traumatic experience that can lead to that.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:04

Yeah. Uh possibil kay ma unresolved childhood wounds, Doctora?

SPEAKER_12 1:28:08

Unresolved childhood wounds ish nahakalung kot because those undresolved childhood wounds, when the time comes, manish and then magugulat ka it na everything stems out from the childhood wounds. Like they were being abused before, they had this traumatic experience, and then all of a sudden, big lang maga anusila lalabas kagal shia. During the time na pog na counseling na yun pala yung dailan. When they ask, when because when when you go into counseling, you dig into it. She first session. Second session, have you ever tried to realize? I always ask, what are the triggers? What caused the episode? And why do you think that happened? Tabaspok, I don't know why gang top, pero childhood. And then resolve issues. Oh, in fact, my husband doesn't know that I was abused during my childhood years, and then now pana I have a conflict.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:19

Yeah. So pagan doctor, anung um sinners.

SPEAKER_12 1:29:27

Not necessarily. Do you want that your husband will know what we are talking about? If you don't like, I think you do you have to do something about it. Second, have you forgiven yourself?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:39

You know.

SPEAKER_12 1:29:40

Second, if you have not forgiven yourself, I think you have to do something about it. Third, you might be psychologically, emotionally, physically healthy, but spiritually you're not. So you have to elevate your spirituality. And when I talk about spirituality, I do not talk about the religion. I talk about your faith. And when I talk about your faith, it doesn't entail na you have to be very parang prayerful. Try to do an act of kindness and try to be an inspiration to other people. If that happens and then mayus ka, then you are at peace. Yil lang kaya ko ibili se yo. Second, sabikang When you talk of spirituality, it entails a lot of things. It entails yung yung parang um pana nyungala mona bak ba se before you question bakatindi katin lungwa ni gan during the time of your abuse. Bakit gan to na pina baya akanan. Actually hindi sabi kung ganan You have to check nag dasal ka ba nun and then you and then sabi mo hindi kasi nagot kase ang sa gut yang ganito God give you that opportunity para masmaging matatan ka, masmaging mas powerful yung paper kai god. Pero hindi muna isep se nagut ka. Palaging yun yung p ma pasak sa isiko, nagana yung spang sa salitako. And then after that parang sabing yao. It's up to you. You want to pray? It's up to you. I cannot uh parang give you an exact prayer of what you want. Because sometimes iba yung memorized prayer, iba yung prayer na you want it. Simultaneously, na garing tragasakus. And then pag na intind di hungu yun, baba li kadito, isa lang ta na kosa yo. What will make you happy? When you know the answer for what will make you happy, ta pusatayo. Hindi na tay makikita ole. Popuntakadito, dada law yin manilang.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:36

Nice. So niniwa laka doctora ng solutions mental health ma wounds is divine parent.

SPEAKER_12 1:31:43

I always believe in that. For reasons na. Kung yung mg medical problems nahait na sabi mo mega mot, iba parin nya sina sabi ng doctor na parang mila, grunalang po maha ka tuling sa kanyya. And then eventually magula sila na gumaling. Um sasabi nila na bakik akon na ninu mala jan. My husband is a living testomeroni.

SPEAKER_17 1:32:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:32:07

My son is also a living testomeroni. Uh he was uh diagnosed with um malignant cancer when she was 22 years old during the time ng COVID, supposed to be mga exam sha ng final exam nin lang so ma ka chin chenya since COVID I have to excuse and then I ino paratya. Tapas nanalam na mina. It's cancer. Because um waiting for the biopsy is a 14-day horas horas wala. And my my son during the time was into depression, Io umak sa task, kasi alam yal na masmagi malongko chya pag in isolation. So dita chanto kayak ma n nakan nyg ta o na yung Tabu sana parang easit na what will happen to me? Will I prepare myself for death na mami sabi nyang? Tabu sabi kun na I don't know to think about death sabin ganan. I want to think na parang everything ana is is into God's plan. Sabi kung balaho. So nung time na pumanta na sala done for the diag to come up whether he was cleaned after the operation and everything. Na ko, etan na mung si unk na anadon residence. Positive, positive, super taco na no husband, koda sabinya, but ay mung pumanta. Ayang mkadina. In fact, sabigo yung ni nang yan assistant administrative na hospital na yung ng time nah. Ayo sabin says, Sabina iko nala mgbasa. Sabi ko hing yak manda ngbasa impossibly hindi mgabasa. Kina nala mgana. But sabinya you have to wait for the ana the chief surge an uncle, unk surgeon. Eh, four o'clock pa dao yun. So at two o'clock wait sila. Taskiness. Pas six o'clock na hindi pa do mara ting mito. So my husband, yungba, yung mata ba ba mankinko, tapas yung anak nya, and then yung anako over there, apasila. Hindi pa alis. I hindi pa selebuma balek orata mayosama. Tabas there six thirty to maugga kon reach kusula. Tasi ako anun nga nya, but anta gata gang yo. Lik si celebrate kami, ma lang yaka yo, kabi kung kanan, hindi walanya ko, kana e kasi hindi na mi mapigil na ano.

SPEAKER_17 1:34:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:34:38

Sabik sa yung COVID. Hindi COVID yun experience ko talang lahat ng cross and struggles.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:43

D wala kwaya tasa si COVID.

SPEAKER_12 1:34:47

COVID. Kasi, e diba sabi say. Ha the lombasis. Oh. Antart, se nga ng bining gay mun. Mama ba parang danin ngang. Dibba.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:00

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 1:35:01

Kesab.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:02

Parta y particular saint kag dason?

SPEAKER_12 1:35:05

Nah.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:05

Na particular saint or nabi nagang di nasal ni during the time?

SPEAKER_12 1:35:09

Um, nung time na yon hindi kumma yintinhi hang kung bakit angami dami kung palang lahat ng I was in two ano. Lahat na lang na every day. Kuna pasi ming anaka.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:21

Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_12 1:35:21

That started it. Kung bakit every day, I look for a particular saint. Saint, yes. Yeah, and then palang sa bikula m anilang ba Saint Anthony prayed for us. Padre Pero, palage Akay nhap ng anfing anghil, Saint Michael pray for us, Saint Prabhup pray for us. Lahat sila, palage yung mga anghil ko ang talagang yung yina ano kolang. Yunang yung.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:45

Kala wasi Saint Ezequiel Moreni ntia tawag.

SPEAKER_12 1:35:48

Ah, anishwa na. Pero, nung time na yung poru yung mga ano, the Archangels.

unknown 1:35:54

Hmm.

SPEAKER_12 1:35:56

Ta pasabing anila. Uh dana TV sitting, Mata kunashan gusto. So m sikuro angbini rikulang jan yung gusokung sabang na yung gusoko malili it lang na TV t na parangan na y holy family. Tapastawa msa nan nan ta pina hihira pa muna many nagri regalo. Sayo, kase gusung, nindi na khita huganyang kali itlang holy family. Tong sabinya, isa ma hana piny yung. Kasta ma handap ki yun. Yanganan.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:26

Kai sang sayin pole na.

SPEAKER_12 1:36:28

Ka sa banga dokumisan nga kumi sang talga hinahan na talaga nya lang. Malaysia is uh country, pero magugola kamerung m sma ganda yung ichoran na mga santungbini beenta sandila.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:42

Wow. Malaysia.

SPEAKER_12 1:36:44

Malaysia, pa ng sabi ko. Oi, ka babat me. Naba gana pawa tawa pa kung nan tawa. Sama sabi kwa pili pinu puba me ari niti pa nag sambernan sunga. No no no, sabi nyangga ng Chinese sabi nan. Pani Chinese Christian sabi.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:58

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 1:37:01

Na kitang gano.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:02

Yeah. And dok ani ting mopina kwa controversial na advice nyo sa mga na sa abusive relationship, ba ba kitin di lang basta pray it away yang solution na kelanda t umalis para sa i ka bobu boti nagalulu wanila?

SPEAKER_12 1:37:15

Ah na la kopalang sina sabi ni doctor, any atorni kapo na n lasunga I'm not into that. Pa lang sa hang g nito. Um na sabing kana have you ever realized na ik wuna yung humi hingi ng tawad for hindi ng kasalana? Second, do you think naggo grow or magpa prosper tung anan na to it tung relationship na to eh considering the fact na na pa ka abusive na. And then third, kung sa ting yin mw kaya mungules, pero hindi mu kaya daha kasi sobrang ano nark yung ano yung a sawa mo, or mero kam mga i na anon ana one. Alamba ng pa mile mo, yang yarisa yung. Pag hindi ya nag pa milemo, let us discuss those days. And then seguro, pagdating saganyan, look for a lawyer. Nga yung pagin ting yung in case talagan sabinatin mejung mahirap sila or whatever, parang me mga certain foundations kasi na nahaka tulung. So yun yung talagang bin brought up na misa. And then sabiko isalang Kailang diba. Kailangta diba. Tabasa sa bimola kampera. Kung dia mihingi ng bayad. A nong ibi sa bih n. Kaila mpung ta kalandito. Third, nahiyaka. Kai big moon ng tak ng hop ya or yang hopia lang kayam y afford pumtakarito. Kanilla, la hingi, kase gusoko mayas ka yung kung ayung ng kwa angusok ma ibi bigi sa yon na too lung. Wa ka na pum tarito. Forget about it. And I have to be firm. Hindi prepare di yung parang awa, balek awa bala.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:59

Right, right. Uh uh. And red flag says abusive relationship.

SPEAKER_12 1:39:04

Um of course hindi lang tung tung kol sa ana yan. Burba asophysical. Pero yung pog when you start na yung nakiki tung na yung uh supposed to be burnout syndromes. Yes, yes. But burnout ka of being a wife, parang hindi muna kaya. Tapas gusung hivalaya, pero hindi m kaya. Sa sobrang takot mwa. Pag nak karuna ng fear once once you have fear over your husband or even your wife, kasa kumi sa me balik tanga. I think it's about time na you undergo counselling or seek professional parama intind ya mo the actually pink flags pa lang emerun. Ba g mg red flag yan.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 1:39:50

And then second, bong si yen na bug bog na wag na buggung sasa bein sakin na alam muna yan kaya lang kaya mw kaya ka hindi umales, or kaya mmu pina kasalan nandal ka se mhalmu Bakik na boulag saman talang alampalan ng baba eru yan a la mupalan ganyan ng bi shunyan, yon point.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:13

Epa ng pak sa ma anak nami?

SPEAKER_12 1:40:16

Pedi nama mama bhuha y mga anak mwana volontata, pedi nama mama ko parenting ka yo, hindi mga kadan ng negativ mung aspect yung pakpapa la kinya sa mgbata, kasi ko parenting pa yen. Hindi mga ng situation.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:33

Pero doktora, tingi mba, kasi ng kabata yung date kabata nkme hard yung pak di disciplina pa. Parang na yon parang yma kabata yung majo soft si lang. Anuba uhun tgi mujan.

SPEAKER_12 1:40:49

Okay, first and foremost, during my time and during your time, it's more of we are the human sock med. So, angalina social skills na ting. Yes. Manuala katinde, kaya natin. Kaya n yung man liga, nga hindi moka na kailang anga go into a dating app. Right. And yung ma itin yang baka kailang and dating app. Second, yun yung ma hai rap. Kaya na gingwi because of the social interaction is so limited. And parang they're the loliest people because they turn into gadgets paral makahana p ngataon that they will be able to get the proper emotions that they wanted. So sabi kung ganan. So that's a big difference. Because we used to be the human sockmen, and now the sockmen, there are fake news. There are new there are certain uh postings wherein uh there's a tendency for you to compare yourself to these people. For instance, pag nang post yung relative mo at sina binganito na yung anako nagi o no tapo sa sabi ng nana y mo, oti na mw yung pisa mo angina hina gma yang personitis. Bak gana nin ng yare. So, second, parang sina sabe, um all high and praises for this person, kasi mbang da sha da hip pa yak sha, maputi sha, gantu gantu sha. And here you are, ganita yichura mo, ganyang ganyan. Papos, andaming papa present na mga klasi nggamo, para pumayat ka, para uganyan. Helted wellness, yeah. Papos yung pala, hindi na mg pala tuto. Sadi bana hai kita mgana. Sama ta ng kung titi na misarili mo, kung mganda ing perspective msa rilu. Oh, watikun talagam bala hika yung tao, yun talaga mg built nya ganito, ba katindi nagrana satisfak shia, tapus mgakaran ng tinatog na BDD, body dismorship disorder, ma kasen si ki pap artist naganto, ganto ng pakany nya na ilong gusu kuga nyan tinakuga nyanganto. At an early age of fifteen, magusangpa rhinoplasty, miram mgkaran ngbe breast enlargement, diba.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:46

Yeah. So, lato because of social media, Dr.

SPEAKER_12 1:42:51

Etayo, ngpa na natin Gen X, ka kalahati na millennials, purmas ani yan human sock med.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:58

Yes, yes, dama. Oh yung yi bagayin, sa AI na naki pa go sap.

SPEAKER_12 1:43:04

Yunpa, I I was able to I had an interview before because ng kaka ng pala ng boyfriend sa AI and so emotion nah gita. Dung boti bangakung a so yun sa beung for baby kum. Ma lagaangang preshanganyang lapas dada li msa beterinari para pagamote. AI Deba.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:43:27

Akma na ein la baladun.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:29

Ma paasal nabalita.

SPEAKER_12 1:43:32

Uhang sabiko just ko problem.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:36

Ment y moment, my mental health problem yin?

SPEAKER_12 1:43:38

Um probably mm um Hindi n delusional. Delusional just or can be. But for reasons na sabihim yung influentia ng mga ganyan, na kata kot kasa they might be able to get a new form of mental illness for brought about by AI. Na m a I had this particular na na patient bagulang sha sabi nyangan. She expresses though her problems with it an with a particular chat hpt na paalan si ganito. Pero nan existent chun. Sabi because ma goat, ofu, ana sina sa goat, na gantu gan yang ganyan sikura dohdu sa emachun. Kakula na emashun nini.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:21

Robotit no. Wow. Grave no, I mean pa oma abutain ngedito.

SPEAKER_12 1:44:29

Ah, diba para sa, I always emphasize, na. I wanted to make to inform ya na before angan ng social media accounts na minha because we are humans. And we are that accounts. Na paraang Masaya na kamin nun Bula computer yan. Tin no tulung lang kamin yan.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:50

Yun sa mga homework. Yung bang pe print.

SPEAKER_12 1:44:53

Uh uh, yga. Microsoft Word. Yin hang yung kali. Other than that, pola wala shang it ibang itu toolung samen. It isan equipment, it is a tool to help people to gain knowledge. But other than that, hindi sh prepare de para to satisfy your urges, your yung mung porn thing, to have a date, to have uh boyfriend yung accessibility sagan yan, yun yangalung kut don't. But tapo si ko pa niwa ng pa nwala kasalat ng fake news.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:23

Uh speaking of uh pornography dog, uh kasi na basakon mostly ma serial killer ng si simula si lasa pa nonod ng porn addiction, uh y reason behind this.

SPEAKER_12 1:45:34

Um remember, um when you talk of um serial killers, y ma danyan, it's not about necessarily it it entails mental health issues. It's possible that they have a personality problem, but it doesn't mean na mero schizophrenia or what. One, probably because of the history ng bata sela. Second, because of the fact na sobrang they wanted to be in control. Remember, when you talk of rape, it's not about loss, it's not even about yung they love this person. It's because they want to have power and control, of which they have none. So sabi konga, uh no, yung yung mayra, because you cannot be God. Only God has the power over everything, and you don't have any power over other people. And definitely, pagating saga nyan se goro yin na koolung na kulang na spirituality na mga ta' yon. I guess being a Catholic, sometimes I I cry for reasons na parang after New Year, um New Year's Eve. So the uh New Year's Day ksi mba, to continent tao, too. Um kaya hindi kama ka simba ng New Year's Day kase puyat. Na attitude. Just the same pang sa Christmas. Mm-hmm. Panang sang. Parang it's ano hindi pa nang ngba tako, ina enforce na gising tayo, de kase bagutay pungasani ngat ni ng nyo kailang simba.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:22

Mm. Right. Sama ta ko dinun ni?

SPEAKER_12 1:47:28

Dibaga nan tala yung practice.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:30

Hmm. Pero dok, uh I mean aning ting yung mung masa mm pekto na pornograpia sa human mind ng.

SPEAKER_12 1:47:38

One sometimes I I really don't know if there's a link between hypersexuality and porn. But sometimes the hypersexuality is more on the what happened in history. Pero the porn thing, what is wrong? How um post-rebirtal or young uh young um adolescents syndrome. Kwa ni na kita nila. Jingaya nila.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 1:48:07

And then some they do it, sometimes it it it it things go wrong. Like if you remember a particular nine-year-old was was killed at the same time raped by a 12 years old. So by imitation, porn thing. Na hindi kumai tindi and accessibility ka mga below among minors at the same time bakit aha na kakan sila ng access considering na supposed to be my safety measures na gant to per accessibility paran sila to watch mga porn sngan and then na ala muna man kung kung kung resilient amangabata, resilient sila na gaya hing konina nahik.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:55

Oh. Bakit ma yirap sha lisin, doctora.

SPEAKER_12 1:48:59

Um na la la mununun pak bata kayo dito sa, Pilipinas. Pag mga ganyang mga magazines or whatever. Pina prohibit. Yes. So masta ng pina prohibit msa ging ku years. Ila tag mung sagan da wala ngkey lamjan. Tina msay bang mga bansa. Padang kahit naka la tak yang walg mwibili.

SPEAKER_17 1:49:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:49:21

Kasing Hindi nah. Hindi nah hindi na shaano satin grabi yung excitement, grabi yung ano kasi sabang tina tago, tapu sa brang kasabin angal yung pakakabili kudhi, to kasigun tug n tunganyan, tapus sometimes mi mga certain mungga sex scandal na sensationalize, pa hing kopia dun yangga yangga nyang to diba. Pang um kait nasabi mung tinaturu yung tamang evangoko sex education na tinaturu sa mangata. Pero one thing panang that sex education sabata. Right. Kite public school, may rung kathakes Orang um sabina natin. Um Christian si ba map i na allow yung mga ano to na advocacy and na mging ano faithful, mga mgging Christian, mganon. Main wai. Kusi kaita sa high school ng mga public schools. Wanga theology. Meron personality development, ewang ko kwa any moral values, meron tung kol sa sex education, tong sa gan nyanganyan.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:33

Ruan pana i makyuiswala lo.

SPEAKER_12 1:50:36

Oh, dewa pero tong kolsa sabihim mona how you will be able to cultivate your spirituality and ano enhance your anon your kindness, obedience, and nganon. Wala! Hmm Sa yinin naha lung puting papa to mindi yung sexual education sa mabata.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:00

Yeah. Anu po wang hard truth to kosa parental responsibility sa mental health na mga. So pa nukung ang parents mismo ang source ng trauma, Ian sa psychology at Catholic family balis.

SPEAKER_12 1:51:13

Alhikasi ng problema na ten da kaka sa lagana man everything learned by a child palagi se nasabe kung me male na hindi maganda, walang turun ng magulang, hindi yung ma gulang, hindi responsible saganyang. So sakin, pag da ting sagan yung factor. Tigna nan lang natin. Sometimes uh meron ting genetic predisposition. Kahait mabba i chang magulang pero hindi nata and na kungbaakat w lang yya yung bata. Second, meron ding pakakata on is it possible sa genetics na meron talang mga criminal minds tung mga bata ng ta? So of which they have proven na merung criminal genes pa nangga non. Pero hindi mu da pat ma enhanson. And then third, sometimes so if we ha if there's a genetic predisposition, there is this epigenetic predisposition, which means anything that goes with the environment, kinaka ilangan, protect ta hen parin na mama gula a maabata. Because anything that we learn outside, sempre kumi sa n me mali dun. Yeah. So da pat ikoko korrek. Right. And then um I'm not into um uh I I love LGBT people, but then it's still I wanted to tell them na sikun na manda pat alam nyo na kousino ang babai, kusina nalahai. Para sagan, nbol lang confusion. Kasi kumisa diba na gakar ng confusion. But but my point is, yung matutu moon ng tama. Because nan dun yung moral se, yung di bako di ng mggahar ng mor a eko bilang magulang a mg sa send, ang mga asen ng morality sa mga anak mo sa da pat lang important yon.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:50

Dimo yasa sa teacher.

SPEAKER_12 1:52:52

Oh, ng di pepe. Tonavala jada. Oh, kasi parang sah hen, parang pakdina ng ma parang diba hindina mg baba e hindi ako namamsa pag ng kala general information wanan nakalwe dun na kung ano nanda kalu dang sex male or female, parang dina la gay dong gender assignment mo. Bhaangun, baha pakmung nakbagun ng ng ano ng birth certificate. Pero walan ng birth certificate chun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:20

Doctora balik tulita sa spiritual warfare. So pa na natin di distinguish ang through demonic influence, mula sa psychological disorder to la ng anxiety.

SPEAKER_12 1:53:29

Okay, sakin, anybody with anxiety magugulat ka they always tell, I am praying na man. I am praying na man. So meaning to say, ang mahirap kasi sometimes the demonic possession, or even yung mga oppressive uh possessions they enter into people who are weak. And sometimes, yun yun na ging problema, when you entertain those thoughts, those intrusions of negative thoughts, and you become so overwhelmed to the point na must in business anxiety, must ina entertain me tot na maka karna na anxiety, must i na anticipate ko. So sa npagating saganyan, once you felt that there's something wrong, Sigoro sa na anganda na parang tayo. We always wanted to inculcate na a person should have a physical, emotional, psychological, na spiritual parang health. Nakailangan, ma enrich lahat yung yung bagay na yon. Hindi papa di na, ang English, emagandang kalisuga ng pa ngatawan. Hindi yung hindi yung hindi iwanan me mental health spiritual health. Because important na spiritual health. Una regardless kung sabi him ku anung religion ka. Pi rape, mepi nan nini wala ang kang jos. Sigoro pa gating sa ganyan, alang mwa yung existence mo you have to be grateful. Thabbuhika, yimbu na patininin na knabuh.

SPEAKER_14 1:55:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_12 1:55:03

Mahirap kamei. Parang yungga non. So yun yung mungga na wa walang values, na wa walanganon. And sometimes because of um consumerism, people are so m materialistic. I really don't know why. For reasons sak ndi kunang ina anyun na. There's some students of mine, or even yung sabing kuna man na hindi na man ganang ka ano pero they wanted na mga ng the latest iPhone, iO ng basa analang, Android type. Yes. And alang hirap nahirapi mama gulang mito dibay magan.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:42

Yeah. So uh buk yung kino wento mo yung lang yung parang ting y mushur kan na demonic me pose.

SPEAKER_12 1:55:51

Um another one. Ita talgang ka iki anato talang nga ging mabai tsa kin tao sakin boss. Peranamata to 2014 patientha since 1988.

SPEAKER_14 1:56:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_12 1:56:05

So my mental retardation to a peris kitsha. And when she was in a hospital, psychiatric card in a hospital, alamunaima khanamira, she was abused by the AIDS. And then no, I don't know by the AIDS. Oh. Prior to that, hypersexuality, she goes to the police station. At gina galaxy na police. So the then when the time came yung kapatinya became a doctor. Pina anunal gate, parasagan hindi sham ka na mbuntes. So nung nandito sha, I na ko grabi yung ano, napaka sexually preoccupied nya. Pagbina gusu hana anto sasabi nya. My name is kenito para angla lagin ya apilido. Yung apili dunung nurse, apilidun ng gwajanamin, apili dun ng intern ganon. So ma ishan, pero na gwala na yan. Manuala ka. Maliit lang na kita m yung nurse kabi pa pa taba immalan ng konta nurse. Den ng kala ke. Hm pito India tin Alicia. Satina Alicia, sam bednedanya. Yung bed cemented sa anasa floor. Tasa good kami gun gunan bang bang bang nung bang doortug nya ta uunun ni anol ni testu e anemo e papasoka nyo. Nakatali parisha. Yung bed, nasalikunya in na gun gunany kun bed. Tapos punishan ananakasak nung physical nasa toilet bosa to malincha sonabali yung hips. Dinnerasha veterans okayha na hip replacement. Bina dik dito, docami, parang di deteriorate, tapos ibani matanya. And then, the by sa bigokinakoto atonila langam. Mm paran dinya na man. Tapas de hi pa it so dinner's alisa veterans. Tapos de alumnaminaga non tapos de alumnan doctor din kasi din doctor nya. Dinanasidon sabinamin orena orina semalote. As e my ayosa tapas kina usa pasha no kapatinha, alumnon kapatma ayo. Big long in a ta, but I'm not a grave.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:43

Parang yung pino.

SPEAKER_12 1:58:45

Oh, tapos did the matin sister de ayam ni wala. Tapas sabbin ya pinny penis sister nya kamil kapatid go bato, parang di kusha kapatid. Say yun na kaya topus coming on pullagin sa stories and dead in and take a yo Iona. Parang nung nilagin along. Nun as uh frozen shed, no tapas nung nilaginish. Dunalang nia parang nahita ng kapatin na kapatinya per kai kamiren parang parang alamin nag doubt kame kung koung patient min yon kapatinga mg.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:22

Right uh.

SPEAKER_12 1:59:25

Hmm There's some one na parang I shap paranganun.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:32

So ting m doctora yungangis.

SPEAKER_12 1:59:35

May me mga mis di may mga may mental health na tingin mo uh of course I cannot tell that to the doctor because sometimes the doctor will say uh it might be a religious preoccupation. Second, it might be a multiple personality that they are aliens or they are other beings but observe news and sambi kung. So hindi nafeta, okay, king nurse. Pang koko lab kum. Kara, Mamdi ba iba. Oh my god. Kasi we don't wa to do. We wanted to ask the doctor if there's a change of medication or something.

SPEAKER_14 2:00:30

I'm just why?

SPEAKER_12 2:00:34

Oh, for reasons na sino sable la ludu maka har ng confusion ya patient, la ludo na parang uh preoccupations religion, y mangana.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:47

A paya consent din na.

SPEAKER_12 2:00:49

Oh, make sure you're not going to do it. Kasi group sila na pinea gana mismo pamila. Anli pak sa kathari kasiliba parang shampre a ni yon paang uh tatun sa doctor. It's uh ska yipong bahala, pero kamil pina pa ng pasen ng consent, na wula sila finalam msa magan. Ganin yung ani hindi kolang kung anatawang dito, kung narrow mind that ham doctor pagating saw n. Pero sakin nani yungaga nan mana kusaga ng. So sa nksi nabi okayung po sa yung kuyun kungusin yang kung makatu lung sha bagating di mindi ka pa naka handle ng maki. Yeah, for reasons na every time na I do it here na ng prepare ako yunghi na kaka saketa ko.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:46

Oh.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:47

Ain nga kasaket.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:48

Hmm. Like what? Pang saked.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:51

As in hindi ko alung kung baga tind uh three or four days na talg high fever.

SPEAKER_16 2:01:56

Hmm Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:59

Parang wa out of nowhere big mga ka saket And then during the time na mina yarang kanyan. Although I know I I can sense, I can I I know there's something wrong. So I pray. But sometimes parang pagim bana I feel so weak na parang, I ask for guidance and then saga n talgang super tawa ka Holy Spirit Parang. Sabing Dr. Lub, sahang ka. You have to be very strong if you want it to be yung parang and necessary Father. I uh Dr. Lub, I can discern peranataka. Because it's not a new thing for me, pero it parang na the drain yung energy.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:47

Yeah. Pero dok an ting yung kos ng possession bilang y sang psychologist.

SPEAKER_12 2:02:52

The the weak uh prayerful, pero anybody who's weak and who entertains these thoughts, the negative thoughts, and pasan. Parang paga ng mg sik ng help kwe God, ang sa sabihin parang bato n di guna kaya, tapas parang so the temptation comes in. Parang sahang ganan lang kad dali yo on. And sometimes um even though male, per sometimes dimoon yung pakgi isi map parang na sasabi kungan. And I think and I believe. Yung pa saabi ng ma tanga to ganito.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:32

Yeah so ting mung di lang yung basamental issue.

SPEAKER_12 2:03:38

Oh, pigmental issue okay langhaga. Pero something different. Ladin napgma sin na basalana parang Papa ka mata yaho. Oh, chaka yung parang sinab yang gana. Na, sating y kalaran na sa magulang parang. Sabingga anak ying yung ng tao se yokindi kolung ka niung pe yung g parang bata myingin na tao di mgalung kang kasalana, muta pasma dian na k yun disembarang yonakdin parang mata giren mgaho. Ng forgiveness, parin di m alung ka ni yung kasalana ni. So sain nana kasalana.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:16

So to batalaga ang demonio jablo. O katang easy plang yan or fiction. Alamyo ako mis mun I made you na dudu then. Peru nung na exposa pag interview ho na ramingma exorcist free local manapa international that the devil is real face to face during your exorcis in la banane. I in the Salamani spiritual every day. If you lay la nah la banane, spiritual warfare horse.

SPEAKER_00 2:05:12

Hello, and welcome to Halo. This is the first session of Exorcism 101 spiritual warfare. My name is Father Sikhia, and together with Father Winston Kabarin, I'll be guiding you through this journey of understanding and confronting the reality of spiritual warfare.

SPEAKER_12 2:06:23

Because basically, women are more emotional and they have a tendency na to parang yung ano hai yung to rationalize things. And like kase, paglilahi yukase na bing straightforward. Aganto, male, tapas. Angba bay. Male, kasiguru kase ganto. Pageti na kagalcha, tapus sabin, tapas bak mama ya no koolang tapas sabin sikuru kasi kulang kasa panalang. Param lahatinasabe koolang yang panelang sa jos. Tabasanba pog mesin is kanganon. Um ako when I become so extens uh existential to the point na life uh what comes after life is death. So it's not supposed to be the end of life. Paranganon. Pero diba sabingon, kayam muyan, kasi hindi bbi g sa y ngjose kundi mhu kaya. Ayo kum khading nga non. Kasiang point dito, alam ngjos, na mamama ta yang ta' ongyan. So dapat ikaw mging prepared ka for what is supposed to happen. Hindi yung ging nyan nagina ga wa mo. Second, ana yung dapat ngga wen, bilang isang mba booting ta' o mba booting kristano, para sabihihin mo, na yung mga gan yang bagay, e da pat e hindi musino so ko an. Una, kung ng dada sarka, kait ga ng katindi yung problema mo. Hindi ka mgay sit mg pakama ta e. Okay. Pero ba kat ma ini si pyan. So you're just escaping. Third, ma baba e. Pak sina nabir nag inbasa brang emotion, ubusa na ubu san sila, pagna ubusa sila sa binganan hindi kona kaya, and then they want to end it things.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:03

Mmm. Biba. Yeah. So black ma lala la hai black and white lang.

SPEAKER_12 2:08:10

Ganam pogata poos.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:13

Yeah or mas kaiba na mi handle o ng katagula.

SPEAKER_12 2:08:17

Ah, babing nag katagula. Sometimes nan dun dun yung ang pain. But because of the fact na Sigur, mas pini pe it ng mga la la k the Filipino machisma. Not necessarily the the others. Para the Filipino machisma wanted natrag you wanted to present somebody na who who is not hurt from this ganitung pains who is more stronger because they have to for other people to show to know na mas mahaka katun sila if somebody is more stronger than them.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:52

Pani mga tiata gina ysa rinin na mga feminist dosis.

SPEAKER_12 2:09:00

Okay, it doesn't follow when you become a feminist um it entails more of the fact na mas alam yung the human side of the story na must ma itin ya msi situation ka ya must mas comforting ka.

SPEAKER_16 2:09:16

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_12 2:09:17

Hindi namasab na tran kailam mg pakata tang tai or whatever. You know how to comfort women, you know how to be able to you you get into a deeper notion na pa nang alamuna wang pak baba e ang hirap ng anon ng emotional struggles la muna wang pak yungga. So, must nah katulung se gora sa mg saking factor.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:36

Yeah. Do you agree that confession is the solution to mental problem or healing?

SPEAKER_12 2:09:44

Part of it. Part of it needs confession. In fact, if you don't tell the truth, you cannot be healed. You cannot be healed psychologically or mentally or even emotionally. It's more so with spirituality. Panu ka mahi heal, kung wala andamimutin tago. So definitely, mgaha struggles. Kang pak si nabi kuna ndika ayo mung ayusin nyo sa rilimu. Tigilin na natin ngto. You're wasting money for anok coming here. You're wasting your time and energy going here. And la yu lay na lugar. Mutaba sindika maka ng sappinagusa pa natin. Or sina sabi mula ng pero alang ko kula lang. Kung di muda nisa sabi yin wang kan pungadito.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:23

Hmm. How about sacrament of confession though?

SPEAKER_12 2:10:28

Awung kayang sabi kung. Lal na pak alamko na beganung. Have you tried confessing your sins? A nsa good sa. Kayang hindi ako nga kokumin yun ni.

SPEAKER_08 2:10:39

Hmm.

SPEAKER_12 2:10:46

Ohiko ose ge. Pedi bang sa me yung an no akov contrition na lang. Kwa tin lang ba isip mo lang yung. Kasi matutulung kan ging me. Okay, yung During the time nagbama sa bim mga I confess to all my brother Yung yun yun nyilang. Pulitin mulang yun baka sa ka sahale.

SPEAKER_04 2:11:06

Yeah. And dok, uh sam anulandito dok. May ma question from other viewers po na sinanila. So, me rundi tong tanong Doktora Kamil, anupo ang trut tong kol sa neuroplasticity o rewiring ng brain. Pasi pul po bay tong mang yarisangataon, nagbago da sa pa y ng Jesus atsa tulung ng spirito santo la lun na sa spiritua la t emotionalik.

SPEAKER_12 2:11:37

But when ye talk about rewiring yourself, man. One thing, pak megina wa kang ganitong situ na parang nasanaikana. You are wired to doing that diba. Paranganan. Pana sinabimo, dat tikang repis. Wired ken na kasi gusum na yab power over people. But can you change that? Uh. Epa nok nagbaguta. And he confesses sins. He wanted to parang he felt guilty about what remorse gusun yanger ng changes. Hindi mubi begin a second chance. And definitely it doesn't involve rewiring. It involves na na enrichia sa mga ano. So talagang ibik sabih rewiring can be something nag. It's one word para sabihihin lang natin to be able to say na sigantusha. Pero if you really want to change, so the rewiring invogue. Hindi talagang anu yon, there's a big difference between the brain and the mind. Okay. The mind said so. And when the mind said so, na talagang, yung kaisipan ko, gusuna mging ma ay shung buhai ko, kwing ku yyun. Pero mem cognitive voice, kaya kogina wa yung, ka sa sina yung mind ko, na ananasha in ananasha with the ano. Me tama na yung ling ku sa ano sa brain ko ni wa pa nga non.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:19

Yeah. Uh speaking of that, uh doctor na pears na, sa near death experience per kabang mobi biga na inside jaan diba yung minakita sila perwala mga brain activity.

SPEAKER_12 2:13:32

Um the near death experience is out of out-of-body experience yung na saab sahin. And then um, gusako ysa para nong baka sabiinya puru na lang sahin. Um say, yung out-of-body experience yan tain na yon.

SPEAKER_16 2:13:55

Oh.

SPEAKER_12 2:13:56

Umta all the other kids, all the other kids of that particular friend um na friend.

SPEAKER_07 2:14:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 2:14:07

Hirap na financially.

SPEAKER_07 2:14:09

Hmm.

SPEAKER_12 2:14:09

Kaso Hindi parin nag ano me. Hindi paran mama tai paranga. And then they asked the doctor kumper it and plug na dokasi the the bill is into millions na.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:20

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 2:14:21

So parang shampoo feeling, nah diamakho hambadi ng nana yila, the her kasinga sobranang pe. So sabikungan uh can you pray? Would you like to pray for for her? Parasagan hindi taya absa punta na melasha yung gaguina hindi makanda for dab. Tapust and then all of a sudden bibgang na apek ta naho, sabikungan malu, ganto. Can you ask some of your relatives? Who among them is praying na pa bain buhay ng na naimo? Hmm Wow Mekum contra. Oh tendency hindi na tutu g yungus nanaimahimi k nasha. Oh, this bring parang ng takasila. Synchronize natin ga yung kuwa na inderza natin. Na pa ta himikin natri si mammy. She's in pain, Ion natin ng nyangan yangan to who among you? And then three of them na grace na hands. Hindi mgayana yungusunyo se. Mikum contray, manuala khan. Put uh uh yung doctor papay sagusun yo kapo salamo na kandana, sabiko khambi pray for us during the time na tatangaline yung ananimam. Nindi potina tangle na matay na yung matan.

SPEAKER_16 2:16:03

Oh.

SPEAKER_12 2:16:03

So, na to lo sabbing an name, oh enam nay pakino kontra mm. Tiba, yung gusin ng jose, anghira.

SPEAKER_14 2:16:13

Right. Mm.

SPEAKER_12 2:16:14

So saka nyin nya mga na na yea. Kasi alum na matanda n paina shi hindi nya kaya talaga.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:21

Da hindi na kilan ep kotolin yung.

SPEAKER_12 2:16:23

Oh oh. Yung hindi na goma vitam Ohga natural Ma my family members, my aunt and sabika and my mom, they know when they are going to die. So my mom plays the piano for the ministry and everything. Tapas bigang sabinya. Are you prepared? My mom said, why? Haban prepared for a walk. If I leave, so don't worry next. And she left.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:02

What cause?

SPEAKER_12 2:17:04

Um, yeah, I'm not going to be able to talk alam na mina sikura ny moon nyeranga. But alam na butashi knows. Then my aunt, so yung younger the youngest sabin yangan. She was well prepared, la hot yung death nap. Na yungitera yung auntie kun. So she wanted na ko ni ginoa na min for the forty eight ng nana. Tapos uh alam na min sabinga ng doctor nding mam kanda. Tapos de sabinha. Holy Tuesday then sabi kwa anti kila kumba bahashon. Sabi kung, sabi kung ganh. Pelabable kako sab. Ay, sabi nya kamil gusu mama ta. Ana Easter Sunday kasi holy weekyang. Gusuk mamata ng Easter Sunday. Ay sabiko tam hol Tuesday palang ayang sabi kumala pa yin time pa. Ai, Tuesday palang, sabikonta man, sabi nap nako. Sabiya good Friday na lang. Oh win pa hung Friday gun yung yin to anyway, uh good Friday, ka se mga position ka me. Tapas bata pane nakonas pa lang furt grade seven yata. Grade grade seven, tap sak. Titurangasisha mg position, so alisaka. Ja kumma mama taika auntya yokumba kita, gusoko pateika na yoko yung minahikita. Pero mesabinya, isalang na mani hinirinya. Nung choose day n hiniringya. Na habang na mama taisha, gusunya meren tumotu, chamekuma kantat, yung kantana yang pa ulu to yye. So, beran hung pianista meren nahuntaga kantam. Na kabang seven last words nahame Auntie, buhika, kawa wanama man yung na piano. Sabana mila na kawa wanama piano. Gusuna umuwe, tapa sabinuna. So tosabi k alisaho, sabina six o'clock came, na tako si pianista, akalanya kase parang alna. Ghani sabin sanir, tingnam musi tina musi mam si mam parang alana buhe parek na tapas seven o'clock. Seven o'clo. Sabinadun care. Ewala kwa kani kwentalanda sabininedusa parang apo satu apodun sa kasenko chakay nusakatulung nya. Ditina shenam tri. A usinyo. Hindi paho ayos sabinadan. Tapas the auntie sabas biglang Analanda. Kumiket. Ulana. Tapas biglang sabingan tina waganako. San, andasasimbahanaha. Tapas na bigan tapasimp. Sabinya mambola na pussim misis ambura, sabigangun.

SPEAKER_03 2:19:28

Uh bi.

SPEAKER_12 2:19:29

Okay, habinyanganon. Tapas de sa prepared kumi. A sin super prepared kumet. Tapas tinawagang kuna kasenko. Tapas sabinanganan. Oh, habinya etan lisa han, eta doingaga meetin, yung pang first day, second day, third day na pang kay, lahat la hat nga nya and tapas gusunya ga nyangany top. So no lahat ya natuka. Pero etin matin da, gusunya pare has nasanaiko yung fortiet nya. Tapas sabi ko panangwin natin. Tapas di sabiny ya bikai atabik kulung infants ko. Tapas na ay same. Kase yung yung birtha yung ng nilibi yung naiko kontin yung na ka paglibeng kase it's a Wednesday and it's an ordinary day. So, na punta se y la lahat, ng 48 day, and we have two hundred guests.

SPEAKER_03 2:20:12

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 2:20:13

We have raffle, we have games, we have singing. This was uh 2008. And we have souvenirs. And uh na koning ko da kun yang. So lahat nges, sambi ko wang kan souvenir. Um favorite nya kasengungwa ng banana cake. So yung katulung yang lahat lahat ngas binika ng banana cake and a loaf of souvenir yung playlist nya. Uh tapas me thing kusanya purple. I like lavender and cooler yin ng ano. Ngang lahat. Yungun. Kaya sakan lay pray for a happy death. They pray na alam nila to to be prepared. Parang Joseph, na? Oh, kaya super kung near death experience na man. Super prepared na yung mga yuni. Parang ganun ka yang sabi kwa na ying gita ksa nala kase bahindi pa gana ka prayerful. Para sabi hing ko na I will be able to experience na. Parang mapapbil ma bi bili ni lila la hat. Kasi during the times, talga sina sabi ringgana ko. Kwa ani yung gaga weang kung ano papa sabi kung ganan gamto gaku wing koga nyang kanto. And I parang alam na nila, it's going to happen. Kaya super sabrang prepared.

SPEAKER_03 2:21:35

Wow. Mangla se?

SPEAKER_12 2:21:37

Oh, sila yours. Ganan ta. Alam yung date. Alam nila yung date. Kia is pa pakti na ng nala. Pana nanala. Ear lang nila kanding akamina gwori, sabikung ganan para mlahat na laha. So during the time na hindi nahkomi yak. Kasi pa nag alang kun ng mgayare bound to happen. So ini yakunalaha.

SPEAKER_04 2:21:56

Tingi mudi because of their being so prayerful.

SPEAKER_12 2:21:59

Probably. They're so prayerful na gan sila magda saal. And hakata wa. Esa lang western ng nana na. Oh um they both died different year but same date. Oh. July 26th. Gra b and they are both pianista. Kaya sa biko, ay sa katu ta kang pianista na na sa mery na na sa lang eit sa bikung gana because yung pianista nain na min na nagasi kahas nabataina rensa sa bikik sa nkatu ta kg pianista sa. Sa hai beng?

SPEAKER_04 2:22:31

Yeah, maakanta sila dun.

SPEAKER_12 2:22:34

Oh, so br lahat sangan anegun. Yeah. Lahat sila mga nan mga conservatori.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:40

And pekwesha pradi doktora. Pano po ma di disku, ma di diskubre na na glow loko wa ng sisi si ng maling ang a sawa. A no poa mga science atpano po a rapin na may pa g big at kato twaanan.

SPEAKER_12 2:22:52

Anghira nama nyyan, wuna wuna wola nggula lang a sawa na kisaabi na to o. Pa la wa wa, you have to make it a point na kum talagang kusu munghulhi hen ikaw nala mghuli non. Third, kung gusu mo na talagang me ng pak babago or certain changes, ikaw dina mahaka alam non. It's not coming. Umghirap kase if you're if you are two people who are trusting, you know na you don't make pa ka elam the cell phone, you don't make to you don't do this and do that. Pero kung sating mo sometimes the instinct or the intuitive not instinct, the intuitiveness of the women, parang, it tells something. That kasi yung kutub na yon, ang nahaka pa intensify, kung there is truth, yung kung ang man yung na isit mo. Pero don't jump into conclusions for reasons na baka ity maggung dahila and kung bakit la loka y maka y walaya. Sigura paka ting sa ganyan, if you have been honest with your relationship, mas na ging yung opin yan. In fact, weung ibasina sabi talaga na baba erosila, and then they even admit during the time na couples therapy dito, they even admit that kung paan nila yung gina wanilang pak betraydu sawa nila. At ng lito sahara pan sakai nhangang sa ki tangha. Walang walang sa pakakaan, hangang hangang sikoro isang sa pakak langga ni. And I I allow them to get angry. Sha emprendiba. You have to express also the anger or else di bang hirp ng par sabi mung hindi hindi mana na chimika. Or iaka. You're not supposed to cry during the time that you're angry.

SPEAKER_04 2:24:25

Um bad to uh ang par pano do pornography. Pagmya saw adultery?

SPEAKER_12 2:24:33

Uh not necessarily because it cannot be considered infidelity. It can be liba sabing anila. If you want to to go to a sperm bank or even to to stimulate para makita yung anamo, you have to stick to dinun pa nyang sawa mm po bunta dun tapas koning da pat ngovin yunganon. So sometimes it's one way para to stimulate lang yung whatever. Kung natat turn on ka dun, pero kung hindi, might as well tell. Pero as long as you dun it is something medical, it is something scientific, you will not consider it as a form of uh infidelity. But once you fantasize on that, it can be a psychological infidelity because it's micro-cheating already on the part of the men or women for that matter. The effect is the fact that sometimes you tend to in person yung pin person five mona yun yung gusung igruum saw mo which is hindi na man. Kaya yun yung malena pa ng bak it, bait gusumuto, bait genyang. Nyung tanain na mung saban mana kuhayan, but mga kupina sut nggen yon. Wa na mangany datya.

SPEAKER_04 2:25:51

Yeah. So bagi problem payang mga sawa.

SPEAKER_12 2:25:57

Hinasaken.

SPEAKER_04 2:25:58

And dok panu puma yus na mga guide ang mga sawa sa nak na parang nggre rebelde. Angana ko poi 12 years old lang, pero halus aro aro mi argumento para lang puma so school. Anu poung practical at faith base na payo.

SPEAKER_12 2:26:16

First, you have to be more off Ma intindi han mo kung bakit ang isang bata na 12 years old gen yan ng attitude. One, it can be hormonal. Two, it can be something to do with the brain development na hindi patalaga nana develop. Three, muss anata mus nakiken gisila sa kona sana sabi ngada. So it's not pressure, peran diba parang u yil mogan taga nyanganto. Pero sa am magulang hindi mga sabin na tong dun na para. Sigy subukam manigari kasi naika ku ma y mingo. Yo wa tabasi kona mga shamper an ananika, bakta mani digalata sa ng. So ika ga himkasi sanap ng kabiga mpede. So pakating sa gan nong se goro one, you should know who your friends are. Who their who their friends are. Second, masgug sein ko ditu na lang kayung mg stambi sabahhain na mg pa malamang ko kung si nin. Third, kung kinanghailangan na anano. Sorry hindi go tilagam, we set certain boundaries and limitations. Kung anny extent na kusunga si ng independence, gusung mga sense of freedom. Tata oya n. It's a phase in your life na you wanted to set identity. So you're searching for that. So I'll give it time. But it doesn't follow. Na ha susu waika.

SPEAKER_14 2:27:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:27:37

Because one thing, education is still important. Right. Second, kung ayam mung mg ara, magtrabah ka. Pak ta tuba wing kita. Third, wula allowance dah kasi y ayung mung pa maso. You set certain rules. Natalagang hindi muring peding bali yen. Baha hit. Pak bungo tana sila dito, at sinaban na, aika kuni kasi apomba ang mami mili kaminganon. Bak sina bing mung hindi pepadeh. Hindi pepere dai. Kahait nan nanjun nanay mo. Kase hindi na ging consistent, yung gusu mung disciplina. So, anu gaga wino anakmo. Papa wagan si lola, la, kaka mami, kuni mw kudito.

unknown 2:28:14

Mm.

SPEAKER_12 2:28:15

Hindi na consistent and disciplined.

unknown 2:28:17

Mm.

SPEAKER_04 2:28:17

So na giging enabler. Yes. Pan mga awa na manyung mg.

SPEAKER_12 2:28:23

Akaya yanga. Sina kaila mga eyes muna. Ini inform sa khanila. Na ika yung sina ba yung ano.

SPEAKER_04 2:28:28

Right.

SPEAKER_12 2:28:29

Primary support group, the mother, the parents, not you. You're the second.

SPEAKER_04 2:28:34

Epa no doktora yung may na papa no doho yung kinu walang yung gadget gwa la yung bata. Sira y nyung anun ting.

SPEAKER_12 2:28:42

Ah, si guru kasi merang malidoon. In the sense na ina la mobi lang bagulang na baging babyseater yung mga gadgets.

SPEAKER_04 2:28:49

Yo, ndina ng la mg control.

SPEAKER_12 2:28:50

Ndina n l'ma control. So talgang it', it's no. Panang little byon yun tina ta wag na distensitize na exposure mw pa unti unti lang. Pana hindi sa ganon, umaabut sa punto ng bakar ng sempre grabi na yung comfort zone la yy tung mga gadgets nato. So t kina ka ilang dengai paan me limitations.

SPEAKER_04 2:29:09

Ohang halu sa gwawa la ting mo anina yun kela anan na rehablin.

SPEAKER_12 2:29:16

Hindi nama, not necessarily. Kasi mma bapa kisa pa mpang nama yung mga bata na yen si gura kasi. Na ta un lang hindi mw alam or nata taka kilang na akala mo kase yung gadget na lang ang magiging solution para mwhindi magwala. Sometimes if you need guidance, why not look for a guidance counselor, even or a psychologist to help you out.

SPEAKER_04 2:29:40

Uh, and last question doc. Anupo yung yung statement bilang Catholic psychologist ng ko sa normalization ng psychological association of the Philippines, a homosexual lifestyle at LGBT agenda. Alam na mangpunati, naito wai. Contraries a Catholic faith bilang gavesin. Khaya no po ang tots nyo on how to be a good Catholic dito. Hindi po pa ding gawing tama ang mali. At bakit po para na po push ang ilang psych professional ng soji agendas. Agendas na la la bag sa utosang jos claiming scientific basis pero parang cherry picking lang salamatko.

SPEAKER_12 2:30:17

Kea na hindi pana totul soji bili. An daminag dada sali. Ai wan. Um sikara uh na pakatil disha na natan bilang sang Catholic. I might accept people who are in the LGBT community, but I do not I am not a person who will allow them to get married and to even experience such sacrament. Third, um sometimes sometimes if a person turns into being more spiritual, ng guilt feel is they wanted to reverse itong situation, I hindi ito so ng lilahi o li, gusuk by so diba parang ka yang diba sa kosa. Sang kwa si do ng ng guilt feeling shu mga ta kut. So y nya pina point ko. Na hindi ako okay, alangko na itin yahoya soji bion naya na iti nhaya. Pero sana, pak aala nilang ma igi, kung anuba yung boundaries and limitations nan. Because sakin, um yes, there's a possibility that they can adopt children, pero sikura ng pagating saga nyan alangko, they can also be good parents. But somehow hindi la hat fit for that. So, sakin mas maganda sigura ng, masma intindi ha ng iba kung papa anon na pagda ting sagany, paga kata on, masma intindi ha nilan na yung the na the organic family from a hybrid family to diba para yungga nan.

SPEAKER_04 2:32:00

May effect psychologist, psychological ba yang.

SPEAKER_12 2:32:03

Go somehow, di ba hing di munga alase. Sigurung yun barund di natin nah kita drko konti parin na ka experience yangga non. Pero it takes time diba para ma intindi handin and then sometimes sangga yun um stigmatize. Pagma karung kana, ay, ng tata y muganto, ngana mganto para yang kanon. So sometimes this sel it' it it also entails the fact na the stigma doesn't come from other people. It comes from you. Self stigmatized. Na parang a hindi kunan sa sa being kasa naka kayaba kasimalama ni na ganto. So si na ng stigmatized nun, ikaw.

SPEAKER_07 2:32:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_12 2:32:40

Hindi yung anon. Hindi yung mga taung na sa bali gin. Mm. Posi some people o la sa la yon ordinari. Pero ika w na nagdi dog ka dun sa capacity na ibang taang maka intin de ko any yung bhuha yon, yun yun nagi yung problema.

SPEAKER_04 2:32:55

Thank you for that answer dog. And any personal message nyo sa mga nanon no niye na lumalaban sabuhai, par makiwala, kai Jesus sa ma hamon nan ng yare.

SPEAKER_12 2:33:08

Pla ki kusi na sa, e pag lang kito palagay sa sabin na. Even I, di pa pani kasi mgisa lang isan tawe. Even I, when change to we, illness becomes wellness.

SPEAKER_05 2:33:19

Amen.

SPEAKER_12 2:33:20

And when you talk of wellness, it means it it doesn't entail medication. It entails God's love. It entails your trust to doctors if ever na mg kaku doctor ka. And it entails your faith. Na you wanted to be healed, God will help you.

SPEAKER_05 2:33:41

Amen.

SPEAKER_12 2:33:41

Kun ayamo sorika.

SPEAKER_04 2:33:44

Wow. And bakit mammal pa gigin catholico, doctor.

SPEAKER_12 2:33:48

Bakit?

SPEAKER_04 2:33:49

Bakit mammal pa ging katoliko ma.

SPEAKER_12 2:33:52

Alamo kait par lit palitan mokalahat ng religion orka whatever. I so love Mama Mary. Because She has blessed me a lot. At Hindi kokaya na Saliko ran. Yung pagmambahal koke Mamma Mary. Since religion, Bala se Islam Mamma Mary. Parang Hindi kokaya na segurut kagaya na mga Islamic women natalagang sila kayasala naka hijab na gana kasa they wanted to personify mm Mary's ana a yungan na yung puritan everything. But I'm trying my best. I'm trying my best. Mmara na k mbelo. Kaya kayak na mgbela salobna simba.

SPEAKER_03 2:34:44

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 2:34:44

Af we just binalik sadi ba. Ang pakambi ng blat na traditional. So na kana pa ako sa shipi, ata kabila kwa ng belo, kala kwa mala kma bibelin bela. At nababel naka msa simbel. Sa yin nyon sikoro kumba kit, sina sabi ko pino profess kwin fai kun my love for mama Mary. And Sigura then I was brought up in such a way na nung grade six palang ako. I was part of the congregation of the most solo rosaries. Tapos akala kuna mgma madre ko a hindi masang dama rian ka ako yang na kobbini yung ng pakafata on mgainjung. Pana masa mung damo in the sense na mara me kuna hiki tang evil things perang gusto kong ayyu sing yun.

SPEAKER_04 2:35:27

Amen. Yeah. And uh sikuro hindsight question, dok uh sa rosary dok. May me mashishaban about anubang mahkatulung ba cement.

SPEAKER_12 2:35:41

Gusung mahaki ta kungga no karami ygrosari na nanja s alow na illa ng la mesa. My testimony kabana, gusung malamko gano karami ha ping rasari jan sadele. Magogulakana. Ai ba m rasari. Mam anuko ba yung mysteries Liko Avunya bana me light napasabiny Anupuyun.

SPEAKER_04 2:36:08

Lumino sa.

SPEAKER_12 2:36:09

Mr. Tabasabinya. Anupo yung lumino s nayan. Anupo yung light mysteries in a sabin. I say nyu.

SPEAKER_08 2:36:17

Hmm.

SPEAKER_12 2:36:18

And then it's it always protects me. For reasons na when I go to a when I travel. Habanagala kadaho. In easy pula lang. In easy pula, per n ndiko lamdeng kuntama sabi kung. Nakaya yang kwa yin sina sabi nung time ng saar lady opati, mother kasi tinata manda hung magano. Sisigo long na poro hail mery, hung merry, hil mary. Alo gino wakusha for um ski kidlat. No nung anon ng nasa nasa it it uh after a long time um after two thousand eight bumalik na Hong Kong. Uh for reasons na kase nasa bakashin na kon ng ng matainaniko nasa hongkon kaminans. So parang sagin, parang ayo k ng bumalik. So bumarik last year. Ena kamalyano five kilometres na developang maleta na men. Hindi kabi mkasain taxi dandina. Tabus eddi bo diabetic. Tapas sabang in it'samen, who me into a feeling summisigo naho hail Mary. Hail Mary, hail Mary. Trag poor hail Mary lang gasping nahangana. Tapus sabbing no husband. Kala hungai mama mate gonna get nanumpinta pini. Pata as patal said one do ni sabi bo are name my hospital na sigo la sabingo salsa maybe. Here mary. But I'm putting on a hell marry. Hm to think of me. I still want to worry no any easy bungai since abiko. Na have no kaya yin along sa bingo, kasin di kunishama bo, so brung pakit pakad ning pakaram donko. I sim tragang uh alam about to faintura manko no time na yun. Oh, yes gun ka powerful sah and hail merry.

SPEAKER_04 2:38:27

Amen. Yeah pana dok yama gusumagdasana, pero na di distract si la sa tot nila ng bangba. Oh.

SPEAKER_12 2:38:35

Uh uh a regular groceries 15 minutes. Sometimes when I'm distracted, it takes me 45 minutes. Hindi shak magalo, perangasala. Tapos ngaga winko uh na ging foam shakon ngwala ng ano. Ng wala as inwala. Tapas dung lang ng totolito loy. Peranggada salako na in ulitko. Anangaga ngrasa ngeding e the sal na anantali tangai tatlung bestwa na olet I believe in god. Tapas waga tapos nan. Um pak naknaki tahon na maggi spec shakon twelve o'clock or six o'clock, shatragang in ul angelus. Tapas pak ulit ulit kwa shang angelus ba kmula. Pas kum ni sa me time, alam kunga rosari ya ko ampakam ngko pina nanin niggi pina na gini plang ako rosary ya. Megan nat time, sa alamko sa biko I grabi yung ano gusto kung gulhein uh yungga non. Kea pa na tato sila, kasa obbu na sa taping diba. Mena kasi sandin isa yun, pa na paras gama. Pina kwenta nya. Wabkeni kwentam. Ani pina sa pinya. Swenver diba, pa wungta dito, handa kami, twasabing paketa angka me disha me isang kit naganon, ea ho sabikanganon. Oh, eti sacramental ko, eti isang reli ko, eti yung reliko ng ano nang say my care, tawas eti yung holy water ko, eti yung blessed salt, ko, me holy ki make blessed candle la ko, tawa ng tawa yung yung ibang artista. Parasanyan, lasi nang alampoldon. Sabin yang protection. Udi kung din yo kaya kama y mg daddi for parasay nyo. Tawa ng sina tawa na kina goa na min yung.

SPEAKER_17 2:40:27

Doctor love na ka.

SPEAKER_12 2:40:30

Dr. love. Ma hai ridi dinami na habang na ging take kami na kaga nya dingam. Tapas ng dadasalang. Tapas sabin nyang. Aye, like dad nice dad.

SPEAKER_17 2:40:41

Na yasilan. Oh. Hmm. Wow.

SPEAKER_12 2:40:51

I had naked sabingun earins. Ui, big yum mohun ng ganyan, but kummy ganyan sabinagunan sabmunabilian shelko. Ai, na gulit pa del walahu intin shung bumilinyan, na ki tahakul lang tapas nag mama delia ko ini waku yun no time no sa anan sa seminar na gunan, ini wa kunalang yumpera, don tapasabikunan andusa isan katabinag titinda. Miss etu yung bayatko pakulang hanapin moko, dar kasi hindi kallam dal ibi bless nana e exercise na ananamin, sacramentals jam, dar navalai yung anon nakte inda, tapas sevenya sam di kolam kusan basanakhi ta kula ng don sabikungan na tuba ako malakeno. Gusukanin ksi putin la kubini Igusu pan malakita, tapas ng nakita ku yang sabikungan. Aye, mina tita ns gusu kuyam, tapas pati yung bell, gusto binit. Uh, binigan humbal eat go al mahina tino gusto ymalake bugina talga ng malakhe. Tabaspinai diba air na say father jotang in exercise and laht ng. Tabasako fathers guru do mm ba sambasa yung safin naha. In a sahara pa na hungga. Dala kame gina na nami yung sila naam para gana gamba sambasa talaga. Ya tawa sila ng tawa.

SPEAKER_17 2:42:15

Glove.

SPEAKER_12 2:42:16

Kuspun kami ympun puno yung se la na mina mma sacramentals nami. Kuse ndika nmand naga alam per me dala ho paranganon sakan na kasa for protection purposes. Ekaso bina gang in exercise. Tapas Anakal mbuta ksa bingi. Dalga sida meg kami. Ya me kole blu naga ni ng water. Blue naga nun. Pina pa exercise na yun nyo isang volon kirko. Alam me rung kumu kohanon. Talagang gina gawanya pinang liligun nye yung ano pumu putadito, tapus talagan ng time na yun, na gulcha, dar kasi, parang feeding don ya na bulul sha. Ohung ini ng nya, na bululul sha. Sabi kung gana make karga, si gura dangya, guno sargun ta sofin nanda so no.

SPEAKER_04 2:43:03

Alam nya na exercise water yan.

SPEAKER_12 2:43:06

Sina biko. Na sabi nyangan. Sigura duim lang basa. Parandi galang pana mgayara say yo, pasta dok do miminang sa kana na bulul lahoko y napilita kota dinadu kwa sa easy p yung. Our father hindi kumadasal dasal ng salita ako sabin yanganun.

SPEAKER_04 2:43:22

Mmmang.

SPEAKER_12 2:43:25

Oh, tapa sabi nya after dat se anda kan problem yang timing. Perang maan.

SPEAKER_03 2:43:33

Baka opp pressure.

SPEAKER_12 2:43:35

Oh, ka yang hai. Pya sabiko se game map paan no kana na butusabinya nga n ng too long. Ena ubus na. Na ubusta. Bola nga yungga go sabiko, hindi kuna kaya mgdala ng boung isanganyan na. Kase pina pa exercise nia talagayon. Nakko na kutana kasin Amerika se donabel, sabusa donabel, pak ubi mudito. Yung lahat na li mg ano natin, lalaga natin. Na para tulung taya sa iba.

SPEAKER_04 2:43:58

Mm, yea. Mm. Nan dito.

SPEAKER_12 2:44:01

Gina gwang na pina painunam sa mappa sente.

SPEAKER_04 2:44:04

Alam ni la? Deh pero me anubba, me one time parang me na greak.

SPEAKER_12 2:44:11

Mm mm, me roon. Alam na misin ng pung. Na parang na gwawa la. Alam yun.

SPEAKER_03 2:44:18

Af right after.

SPEAKER_12 2:44:20

Mmabamin. Hoy!

SPEAKER_04 2:44:25

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 2:44:26

Tapasun na greak tapa sabi. So alam yun na kusina jelly uh panga alam na me kusi me parang me belong na hingi maganda sabi kung desalka desalko. Ena pasha seminarista be fo. Oh, parapakti na sailang na six. Ah, parang bird day mosa sa bina. Oh hindi ka six. De six birdiko.

SPEAKER_04 2:44:53

Wow. Grave.

SPEAKER_12 2:44:54

Pinong katindi.

SPEAKER_04 2:44:56

So pagusapang dok, pero I don't want to take so much of your time and and dami kung natuto na sayabilang psychologist XP.

SPEAKER_12 2:45:06

Yeah, pungana na second part yiba na mmpag sab.

SPEAKER_04 2:45:08

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure me ma marami pa makata ng jaan and very exciting y story mo dok. Sangab mafalo na natima viewers.

SPEAKER_12 2:45:18

I say, the clinic of the holy spirit. Kung me katang sulapadin sa inbox. And then si goro pagating sa kong talgang they wanted a personal na consultation for counseling sa psychiatrist or for me sa kendito sang the clinic of the holy spirit, number four, Los Angeles Street kuba class city. Metik naka ka kontak maliwa lakayo. Paran di gushoginagamit, ka sa usu li naga gamit kulan sha dahum beran na receive na kuna messages then answer. I answered the questions. And sometimes pana um before I used to do this paran na kalimutang kosha, paran sigguru gaga goeng kosha for this Valentine because every year takalimutang kula this year, I ask people who wanted to pray for them. And what they wanted me to pray for them. So, si go sa mga viewers mokisabi kun say nay me gusto just uh no said say sa inbakhs ng gusunila ipag pray kusila.

SPEAKER_04 2:46:13

But Valentine.

SPEAKER_12 2:46:15

Eka say love months. I don't Chinese new year.

SPEAKER_04 2:46:21

Oh for the love of other people. They wanted to be lapang romantic, okay okay.

SPEAKER_12 2:46:28

So they wanted to be ti ba um, and gustung uh salsila, pero hindi nala lang posi no. Para sahin la to give back on people who wanted to be preyed on. Why not? Uh-uh. Sabih lang nila na please pray for me. Tapas four ng tilang.

SPEAKER_04 2:46:51

Wala kang page personal di basa Facebook Meronba.

SPEAKER_12 2:46:55

Meron.

SPEAKER_04 2:46:56

A meron de la page. Kala personal account.

SPEAKER_12 2:47:00

Ina yung personal account Meron, pero kasi mahirap andamina min pung kamilas Facebook.

SPEAKER_14 2:47:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 2:47:08

Alam yun. Nakungba katan dabing maraang kamil. Pero kung mahanap nila, walang problem. So they can just reach out na to pray for them. Okay lang. Il lang yung kaya ka ibiga, and I hope that will be a big help already praying for you people.

SPEAKER_04 2:47:23

And yung face to face.

SPEAKER_12 2:47:26

11 o'clock, hang 12 o'clock po ng. Tang hale, Monday to Friday, sa channel 5 through TV. At the same time, sa YouTube. And then some matchmade pa it will be going to be a podcast. It will be entirely different. It's no longer about dating. It's about being matched with young. It involves a lot about young mental health, your spiritual health, blah hat pa. So we can talk about it. And then si guru kung makapag message and what we wanted to talk about done, kasi it becomes a it will be already a podcast. Along kung papa safety says Spotify.

SPEAKER_04 2:48:02

Yeah, yeah, for sure. And si guru khyusa, no bait ting mung sa dami ngbi message na bi si mu.

SPEAKER_12 2:48:11

Paggo FW automatik yg problema sa anap.

SPEAKER_04 2:48:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 2:48:14

Pang dita sa Pilipinas, at bata ang at at sina sabi na para sa kaibigang ko. Matata wa ka. Hindi para sa kaibigang ko, para saha nila. Yung ka ni ng problema. And then third, an taming gung mgamit ng su the name, ken na kakatawa, pak dumating siladito, at mga confirm sila na appointment. Sang matata wa. Tata baginko, pangalan punung anogan twa mila ng sabi ya mpangalan ya shopila sada. Sasa biksi na pubasi shopil lasada, saka bagat kino kaila ang pangalan musa yen. Kasi, yusuria yoko mg entertain ng ganung kasi bakam mame di ba kuna mi mabodo. Pero appoint kasi. Gusumang nane ina confirm ka. Edesi ge ta. Pero kung bakat ayo msa bihin totgangalan. Hindi kupa nma intendi ha. D'a yung mgaom pisa, yung no paalang pa lang na sisi ngwal nkani. So dun la dun lang akun nag naka karun ng problema kumisa. Pero other than that, uh kaalang yung influx, ng mga ng tata ng. Kumisa sobra to the point, na sometimes they're so silly, the questions are so silly to the point. Nan na pogasapa na natin ya nah, patinika na kini.

SPEAKER_08 2:49:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:49:25

Parang gana. And it's so simple. Parang uh hindi mu pala problema. Na mm batata waka. Kumpani kuda pakhi wala hye yung anak nya do sa gir friend. Ah, siki sabi musain a eden kumpa ngagawayon. Paghi wala hing kudao.

unknown 2:49:51

Mm.

SPEAKER_12 2:49:51

Kiko hindi ka puhaya.

unknown 2:49:53

Hmm.

SPEAKER_12 2:49:54

Sabako hindi hindi ragmiji. Kala ni la. Kina kindnessabi mong bigeki sa isama spiritual ano worker nagain. Kai pulahat nagano santo e seguru bahala na po yung yu anak nyo kuma di discern ya ku ananim malirun.

SPEAKER_04 2:50:12

Free will parent. Oh, diba.

SPEAKER_12 2:50:14

Yun nin yung sa sa map kumi san mga ano sili na na na ano.

SPEAKER_04 2:50:18

Na tano.

SPEAKER_12 2:50:19

Na tano. Na hinggi ng tano ga na kapa appoint yun na.

SPEAKER_04 2:50:23

Oh, wafort.

SPEAKER_12 2:50:24

Na me effort ta lagat. Tapasi ny kuma sa goat. Wa sa kung mom. Ka yap me problem ayon yon tangga pin lang yung baba e da hir keto.

SPEAKER_04 2:50:35

Yeah. Gandan nando. And thank you so much, Doctora. Um sa time na binige mw and and dami kun na totunan sobrang na bless story mo. And rest assured, na ypagdada sal ka nami n palagito.

SPEAKER_12 2:50:48

Aye, thank it, thank it, thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 2:50:50

And salahat ng ginawat marami ka pasana matulung nama.

SPEAKER_12 2:50:53

Sabi kungha sayo. Hindi matulito loi.

SPEAKER_04 2:50:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:50:57

Tapa salamo na tawarinako, ba fit. Sabi kumgre retira ko. Kontahona SSS. Sabi koko ku kuni kuna pung pension ko dar kasa sixty na ako msari po. Baket sabi kung. Kasi hindi huha pedi magrita. Bahai kase administrator pokayo. Kailang pitawa nya pung pag administrator. Ili pa npusa iba tap tapa spedin maphayo mga wang pension. Ekai nahmahwa na pension na hindi yako ano sixty pain papo. So di mg sa bih mataga mgta kaba.

SPEAKER_04 2:51:29

A gusu bagrita.

SPEAKER_12 2:51:31

Oh, parang gusoko na tahimi. Paranggana, okay, parang.

SPEAKER_04 2:51:34

Pero sa na.

SPEAKER_12 2:51:37

Ega sa sabga nsa.

SPEAKER_04 2:51:38

Pani mga T B.

SPEAKER_12 2:51:40

Okay lang dain pa n sah. Sabi kung after TV gusoko bad raju lang. Kasi must masara.

SPEAKER_04 2:51:46

Mass.

SPEAKER_12 2:51:50

Na kibi chin na kheno k Dr lob, okay m na kumi sa ibang cha ibangga na ibang network. TV. Government channel.

SPEAKER_04 2:52:00

Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_12 2:52:03

Tuesday pa ng na.

SPEAKER_04 2:52:04

Mm.

SPEAKER_12 2:52:04

Sa yun yun lang. Pero uh if I ever retire, gusoko sa rajo ayo kanang TV. Kasi sa tv ng tami ano. Di pa ku rea di par sabiha na sabrang pang ko, sabg tandako, sabang mata bako, sabram gantto.

SPEAKER_04 2:52:19

Sa yk. Mha khaiken niglang.

SPEAKER_12 2:52:24

Ma hike nig.

SPEAKER_04 2:52:25

Uh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:52:26

Sa yu gna.

SPEAKER_04 2:52:27

So yo doctora, na te la unanapal. So let's close with a prayer for Doctora. So in the name of the Far Son, the Holy Spirit, Amen. Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord's with you. Blessed are you, among women, and blessed the fruit of your womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now in the day of our friend. Amen. The Holy Spirit. Amen. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_16 2:52:54

Thank you then.

SPEAKER_04 2:52:58

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